Cicada Files: Arturo Tafoyovsky Interviewed
by Estéban Trujillo de Gutiérrez
Cicada 3301 Files: Arturo “Tafoyovsky” (Lestat), Interview May 24, 2019: Transcript and Commentary Revised August 15, updated August 17-8, 2019.
(Archived at @Samizdat on LBRY:
Videographer Arturo “Tafoyovsky” (a pseudonym) (aka Lestat) was an inner circle member of Cicada 3301 (2016-8), their chief of graphics, who defined the visuals of Cicada’s perplexing puzzles during its Middle Period.
Cicada’s Early Period begins with its inception in obscurity circa 2011 and extends to the emergence of Thomas Schoenberger, one of two “head composers” in the order between 2014-5.
Cicada’s Middle Period can also be called the Schoenberger era, as it began with Thomas Schoenberger’s “hijacking” of the order in 2014-5 and ended when Manuel Chavez III (Defango) exposed the secrets of Cicada on May 7, 2018. Cicada as an organization imploded on Schoenberger’s watch: the organization died due to his greed and his mismanagement of Chavez.
The perfidy of Chavez, who infamously blew Cicada’s legendary cover for all time, will be recounted in coming installments in his own words.
The aftermath of Cicada’s collapse is one of schism, with most inner circle adepts now pursuing independent projects. At the time that I publish this interview, some 9-10 former members are contemplating a resurrection. My interviews suggest that Cicada’s Later Period may be gestating. A new puzzle may be released on January 5, 2020.
I am engaged in the massive project of analyzing QAnon as a viral phenomenon, as an ideology and a psyop. Cicada 3301 preceded QAnon. Some of the personalities that initated QAnon were members of Cicada 3301. Understanding their synergy is crucial to understanding both organizations.
This interview is my second in 2019, and the first in a series addressing Cicada 3301. My first interview of the year was with Mr. Paul Furber, the original Q evangelist. That interview, the first in the Q Files, was published on this site on May 18, 2019.
This interview of 11,243 words with Mr. Tafoyovsky was conducted on May 24, 2019. I released the draft interview transcript and its accompanying commentary to him on August 11, 2019, and completed my initial revisions on August 13, 2019. After some minor corrections, he approved release of the final version on August 14, 2019.
As Manuel Chavez III reviewed this interview on his YouTube channel later that same day, he identified errors. These are now corrected. Aside from calling me a “fool” and a “douchebag,” Mr. Chavez’s corrections are appreciated. I also consider the critiques of Ms. Denise Matteau, who uploaded her reviews to YouTube on August 16-8. I thank Ms. Matteau for her kind revisions.
Indeed, I interviewed Manuel Chavez III two days before this interview on May 22: that interview and its accompanying commentary are now gargantuan, comprising nearly 40,000 words and rising. It primarily addresses QAnon, though a central section dissects Cicada 3301 in detail. This Cicada section will probably be extracted and combined with other materials to be published separately.
I do my transcriptions the old fashioned way, by hand and by ear, eschewing automation. While this takes much time, it improves accuracy and makes me intimate with the data. I initially publish only transcribed audio tracks with commentary. I reserve my videos for separate analysis on a later date.
I decided to skip ahead and to break out this interview with Mr. Tafoyovsky before my May 22 interview with Manuel Chavez III as it is shorter, and I rely upon it and other interviews with Tafoyovsky in my overarching project. I also interviewed Mr. Tafoyovsky on April 10, April 14, on multiple days in June between the 9th and the 27th, on July 4, and on August 10 and August 16, 2019. Most of these interviews were on background, they were not recorded, so only gisting transcripts of them may eventually be published.
As will be seen, Mr. Tafoyovsky is not the only Cicada member that I interviewed. Further interviews with other inner circle members are ongoing. The May 22 interview with Manuel Chavez III will be the heart of a book-length Q project. If my other Cicada interviews go well, a separate book-length treatment of Cicada 3301 may be feasible.
This much is indisputable: when I am done, we will understand Cicada 3301 better than ever before. My intention is to rend the veil of the “most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age,” preserving its constituent elements for history. As a political scientist my focus is organizational: I dissect how the digital order functioned, how it was comprised, what its goals were, and how it pursued them.
Accordingly, all Cicada artifacts acquired in my research are archived on the imperishable blockchain of my LBRY channel @Samizdat. With this interview of Cicada’s videographer during its Middle Period between 2016-8, we begin.
(Sam Scott, “Cicada 3301: The most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age,” Metro, December 16, 2013; Defango TV (Manuel Chavez III, aka Defango), “News #hongkongprotest #lightwave – Defango TV 8-13-2019,” YouTube, August 13, 2019, timestamp: 1:26:00).
Begin Recording: 01:35
Trujillo: “How you doing.”
Tafoyovsky: “Fine. A little overhyped, but I am doing ok. We’re trying to keep it–”
Trujillo: “You are a little what?”
Tafoyovsky: “A little hyped. Like, excited. It… we finally found out who Q [02:03] is… a part of Q, you could call it that way. We found evidence of Thomas being connected…”
Trujillo: “–I am sorry–you say you found evidence that Thomas is what?” [02:26] I cannot believe my ears.
Tafoyovsky: “Is Q. Like he started it… (crosstalk)… Excuse me?”
Trujillo: “So you found evidence that Thomas is Q?” I say it again, as I am in disbelief. “So you found evidence that Thomas is Q?” My face reflects astonishment.
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. You know the Bakers, the ones that hold the tripcode and stuff? We always knew who those [03:09] people were.”
Tafoyovsky continues: “Remember when Jerome Corsi was decrypting QAnon?”
Trujillo: “Yes.” Indeed I remember. Jerome Corsi is getting an entire chapter in my book, in fact. I am well aware of Jerome Corsi.
Tafoyovsky: “Well, Jerome Corsi offered their patrons and his donators (meaning people who donated to him, remember that English is not Arturo Tafoyovsky’s first language), he forwarded emails, he attached people on emails, that he would communicate with QAnon.”
Tafoyovsky continues: “Those emails got leaked. You can find it on Defango A858.”
I am silent, so Tafoyovsky continues: “There is a video, A858, on Defango, Corsi was communicating with an email with A858, a long number, an AOL email… he had the name of Jack, and he referred to himself as Q. You can see the video. I also put some evidence out on Twitter.” [04:17].
(Defango TV (Manuel Chavez III), “Jerome Corsi and Qanon, Army Jack and A858 Coders or Shills compromised?,” YouTube, April 1 (April Fool’s Day), 2018. Also see: Defango, “Jerome Corsi and Qanon, Army Jack and A858 Coders or Shills compromised?” SteemIt, April 1, 2018? nd).
Defango (Manuel Chavez III): [00:16]. “It has come to my attention that Jerome Corsi has been talking to QAnon. Our friend Denise (Matteau) sent over some information about this. If you look at the email of who he says Q is, it has a name that matches the name of the reddit mystery on Google. It pulls you up to the A858 account, but it is weird that Corsi is getting an email from somebody claiming to be Q from an AOL account.”
Chavez points at Corsi’s website. He says that Corsi seems to be very Zionistic, super-pro Trump. “I’ve had my questions about him for awhile, so I hung back and let him do his big decodings and it’s really kind of funny, he’s made a name for himself. I wanted to remind you guys that this… is proof that QAnon is someone close to President Donald Trump.”
Tracy Beanz (Tracy Diaz) talks. “The pen is actually on Obama’s old desk.”
Corsi: “Yes, the Laurel Desk, Obama used it at Camp David, and Trump also uses it. And the pen is a Montblanc ink pen that Trump has used for a long time. In post 8159 QAnon said, “now look familiar? Note the desk.”
Corsi: “That is Camp David over the weekend. Had to be taken by somebody who is there. That pretty much authenticates that QAnon is close to Trump, and these important White House meetings.”
Diaz: “Yes. it was awesome to get that validation among so many others.”
Defango plays a Right Wing Watch video. “Don’t you guys remember that post?” He asks us. “Post 815… right? We got to go 100 posts down. Ok. Looking for the picture of the pen… got to go farther back. 615 maybe? Got to be in January. Ah. 481. Here’s the pen. Does this look familiar? Note the desk. January 6th. And we know that that’s a desk and a Montblanc pen. Hmmm.”
Just, you know, checking, Chavez OutGuesses the photo. He says, “It is not something that you could not find. So I went back and saw the videos that he’s doing on it, it’s his bread and butter, I mean, irrefutable proof that QAnon’s legitimate.”
Chavez: “But now I got these emails from Corsi. Do not get me started on somebody using an AOL address.”
Then Chavez starts reading the “Jack with a K” emails to “Carol in Cali.”
You cannot make things like this up. This whole thing reeks of yet another Thomas Schoenberger scam, one more among a multitude that are emerging as I delve the intertwined mysteries of QAnon and Cicada 3301.
As Arturo Tafoyovsky (Lestat) observes, Schoenberger loves reeling in these elderly matrons, kindly ladies living on a pension. A review of Thomas Schoenberger’s criminal history confirms that this is a discernible behavior pattern.
(Among many other offenses, Schoenberger was arrested for Felony Stalking (CA Offense Code 646.9APC) by Arresting Agency RMND on January 30, 2015, Napa County Municipal Court, CA). I address Schoenberger’s extensive criminal record elsewhere.
Chavez keeps on reading these emails.
Chavez: “Uh, huh. “No coms outside the thing,” isn’t that right, Corsi? What is going on with these weirdos. Does Jerome Corsi know who the new QAnon is? Or are they just doing something to kind of change everything up? It seems like somebody’s trying really hard. I mean, I am more than open to speaking with Jerome Corsi on the situation. Anyway, let me know what you guys think.”
Q Drop Post 8159, “Look familiar? Note the desk. It’s the weekend. God bless, Q.”
Corsi: “That picture had to be taken by somebody who is there. That pretty much authenticates that QAnon is pretty close to President Trump.”
This Q drop actually authenticates nothing, but Corsi tells his audience that it does, and so he is believed. There is a significant demographic of American citizens who so desperately want QAnon to be legitimate that they believe Q Proofs: our distrust of the fake news media leads us to follow the cryptic utterings of an anonymous character, a modern-era Delphic Oracle.
Google: “Jack the A858 reddit mystery.” (A google search brings up this reddit link as the top hit):
The root subreddit is r/Solving_A858:
There was also a Wiki dedicated to solving the conundrum:
The email address is : email@example.com
You can Google that and see what comes up.
From Chavez’s SteemIt: “It seems very strange to me that Qanon would be talking to Corsi over email via AOL.”
Actually, it makes perfect sense, when you consider that Corsi is old, and Thomas Schoenberger’s technical expertise is spotty. And yet—Schoenberger lurked on Cicada-solving IRC channels. I will not tumble down that rabbit hole at this point, to keep this interview and commentary on track. I address Schoenberger’s footprints on particular IRC channels elsewhere.
Chavez: “That just is not something someone concerned with security would do. What sense is there in using that to communicate and what about the connect to that reddit puzzle. (sic). nothing is random as tengri 137 says so we only can look at the effects that it seems that somebody is trying REALLY hard to make themselves legitimate (misspelled) without actually joining anything to speak with me on the subject. Doesn’t that strike you has old (sic)?”
Chavez includes a mass of links:
A858 Reddit Puzzle
Resuming our interview with Arturo Tafoyovsky:
Trujillo: “I looked at it, it did not make sense to me.” [01:01]
Tafoyovsky: “I recently baited Thomas and he sent me an email mocking me, saying “bye bye,” that he got me kicked out of Twitter, or that I gave up? That was the first thing that tied up so many things.”
Here is the email that Thomas Schoenberger sent to Arturo Tafoyovsky:
As usual (I am reviewing many emails by Schoenberger lately), the email is cryptic and dismissive. But as I write this commentary on August 11, 2019, I cannot help noticing that it can be interpreted as a prediction—a prediction that presaged the de-platforming of 8chan ∞.
Schoenberger, who claims to be the reincarnation of Saint Germain, flogs a reputation for himself as a fortuneteller, a reputation that he mostly promotes himself using multiple sock accounts.
And yet… Schoenberger used the word “Judas” in threatening emails to Manuel Chavez III, and those of us keeping our fingers on the pulse of the so-called YouTube Truther Community know that Isaac Kappy called himself a Judas in his pre-suicide farewell.
“That was the first thing that just tied up so many things. And I thought, this is the guy. That Jerome Corsi was communicating and giving out information. I know that Thomas never did post. But remember the things that he sells is his prophecies. He throws an arrow and where it hits is where he draws the bullseye. That is kind of how he makes his prophecies work. [05:32] You can see repeated when he made his fake Cicada on QAnon and on FBI Anon, also the patterns of FBI Anon, how it needed this channel Victuras Libertas.”
“Anyway, recently, a friend reported there is an associate who helps Thomas, her name is Donna Emerald, she had a blog, and on her blog, she had posted that Jack was being contacted by someone who posted as Q. And he was seducing her? We already knew that, that is Thomas’s favorite target… matrons, single, mature, more-old ladies, who have a pension? Who can pay him.” [06:44]
Tafoyovsky: “You can see already the tweets that I made.”
Trujillo: “I am looking at his criminal history, his arrests for criminal felony stalking. I am looking at his criminal arrests for felony stalking.”
Tafoyovsky: “Yes you can say that he has a record on being a stalker, it invalidates many things that he does.” [07:45]
Trujillo: “Nothing talks like a conviction. We need to be clear that an arrest is not a conviction…”
Tafoyovsky: “—Like how he portrays his reputation…”
Trujillo: “Oh yeah. Absolutely. I am confused how you consolidated a connection between Jack and Q.”
Tafoyovsky: “Like I said, you may have to… if you remember that era of QAnon, Patriot’s Soapbox everyday, you had Jerome Corsi decoding Q, and Q called out Jerome Corsi and stuff. (The profiteering drops). [08:32]
Tafoyovsky: “What I do have is evidence that Patriot’s Soapbox offered guests, and privileges to their bigger monthly donors… it is also certain that Thomas lost control over his little creation. But it doesn’t mean that he lost all his influence.” [09:17].
Tafoyovsky: “And the fact that he infiltrated Jerome Corsi, and the thing is that Corsi offered that service of attaching people to that email… so it is kind of like a repeated scheme that Thomas does… he just leaves footprints everywhere… and also—”
Tafoyovsky: “—patterns that he cannot escape from. Maybe this can answer your question better. I made the connection because when I searched the email that Thomas sent me, an A858 email, [10:09] I searched it, it sent me to the Pi.Mobi puzzle.”
(The Pi.Mobi puzzle is dismissed as an imitation Cicada puzzle on the Uncovering Cicada Wiki. They point to an archive from 4chan /x/, and to Schoenberger’s YouTube channel Sophia Musik, which displays nothing of immediate use, aside from a link to his blog).
Tafoyovsky: “That was Thomas’s original puzzle. It showed me results of Defango talking about the leaked emails between Q and Jerome Corsi.”
Trujillo: “Where are those leaked emails? Who has them?” [10:39]
Tafoyovsky: “Well, Defango put out a Pastebin. With links. Probably, you can say that it is decently documented. [10:56]. I can send it to you if you want.”
He did so, and so here it is:
I cloned it for safekeeping here:
Again, here is Chavez’s post on SteemIt.
Trujillo: “Please do. Because emails… alright, that is one piece of evidence, but what I am looking for, what I am looking to see, is a rock-solid connection between Jack and Q and Jack and Thomas. You know? [11:20]. That is what I am looking to see…”
Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm. (Agrees). Well like in a way that, uh—yeah, you can check it out, I can put out the evidence. Because like, I don’t want to try to, I don’t feel the need to try to convince you.” [11:40].
Trujillo: “You do not need to persuade me, you can just show me the evidence and I can draw my own conclusions…”
Tafoyovsky: “Hold on, let me look for the Defango video…”
Trujillo: “What time is it there for you there? I’m just curious.” [12:06].
Tafoyovsky: “It is 5 AM.”
Trujillo: “Five in the morning?”
Trujillo: “Oh, bro. You need to get some sleep, man!”
Tafoyovsky: “Hahah… Thomas is not the only thing that is going on… we’ve been busy… I’m going to send a Pastebin on Twitter or in Zoom chat?” (We are talking in Zoom, which is why we enjoy this transcript and audio file rather than a gisted transcript). [12:21]
Trujillo: “In Twitter please, yeah.”
Tafoyovsky: “Ok…” (Typing…) “Uh, if you can send me—I can send you the email that Thomas sent to me that same email…”
Trujillo: “Ok… ok… There it is…”
Tafoyovsky: “Can you please type again your email?”
Trujillo: “Sure. (I do so). Just a moment here. [13:40] There you go. (Silence) So this is dated April 1st, 2018?” [13:45] (I am reading the Pastebin).
Tafoyovsky: “Sorry, can you repeat?”
Trujillo: “This is dated April 1st 2018.” It does not escape me that this is April Fool’s Day.
Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm.” (Yes). (Silence).
Trujillo: “Who is (indecipherable).” [14:32]
Tafoyovsky: “Excuse me?”
Trujillo: “Who is Denise Matteau?”
Her email is in the Defango Pastebin: firstname.lastname@example.org.
Tafoya: “Actually she has a YouTube channel that is called Truth Convoy?”
Except that Ms. Matteau reportedly called Dallas PD and confirmed, she says, that no Officer Halloway is employed by that department. On August 17, Ms. Jaquelyn Weaver commented on this article (page bottom), stating that Ms. Matteau was apparently the victim of someone impersonating a police officer.
Clicking on Mr. Holloway’s name reveals that he is a “website owner, video gamer and devoted son/brother from America in the city of Albany,” and not a police officer at all. My guess is that Mr. Holloway is an activist, and he somehow prevailed on the Dallas PD to post his exposé of Denise Matteau’s heinous trafficking in hand-made quilts, funded through PayPal and a GoFundMe page.
The quilts look nice, and she makes one per month. I intend to buy one, if I can coordinate the logistics of shipping it to Bangkok. Thai Customs imposes heavy import duties, as they want expatriates to purchase products made in the Kingdom.
Ms. Matteau, naturally, is displeased to be called a scammer on the Dallas Police Department Facebook page (blue checkmarked, no less). In her critique of this interview, which she says “lies about many things,” she calls me a “leftist,” suggests that I am a Mossad stooge, and later, concludes that I am Peruvian. You cannot make things like this up.
At the [35:13] timestamp in her video, (Truth Convoy, “My Daily Half Hour Double 08/14/19 VR to Steve Trujillo : Qanon, Lestat, Cicada,” YouTube, August 16, 2019), Ms. Matteau declares, “I make no apologies for my antisemitism, I earned every bit of it.” The kindly grandma’s steel spine is on full display as she rants against “damned Jews.”
Unfortunately I am not Jewish except in spirit. After claiming that we are afraid to talk to her, she cites Lift the Veil’s Nathan Stolpman, “another Jew in the mix.” [46:00]. Then Ms. Matteau shocks me, saying “this is a good article. It’s got a lot of stuff in it, but like I said: grain of salt, grain of salt.” [46:35]. I thank her for her praise, but I enjoin all readers to remember that this interview captures the statements of Arturo Tafoyovsky. I merely comment on his words.
After she criticizes Mr. Tafoyovsky because he “is not American,” (he is Mexican), she errs when she condemns me: “this guy Trujillo, is not American.” [49:00]. I regret to correct Ms. Matteau, but I am American born and bred, of Spanish descent, and a veteran.
She complains that Mr. Tafoyovsky and I believe that the Dallas PD “puts up smear pages on people who’ve never been anywhere near Dallas.” [49:15]. This is actually a legit indictment.
I should know better. Something about that Dallas PD Facebook page struck me, which may be why I included a screenshot of it in the first place. Ms. Matteau is correct when she says that no American police department would be allowed to post materials like this. I am sure that she will get to the bottom of it. For my part, I apologize to Ms. Matteau for publishing it.
In my comment response below, I advised Ms. Weaver that Ms. Matteau is not a focus of my investigations, and indeed she is not. I do not plan to investigate her trafficking in hand-made quilts, despite her emphatic condemnation that Mr. Tafoyovsky and I are “not Americans.” We are in fact both Americans. Somos americanos, Ms. Matteau. Mexico is in North America.
Tafoyovsky: “She is a little I can say… like… affected… like, she has some psychological problems, but you can talk with her, she lost a daughter, and I think that it affected her… you can talk to her… and she’s… as long as she does not label you as a Satanist… or something like that.”
This video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cemFyeGefw0 which is included in the email sent by Jerome Corsi on March 27, 2018 to Q <email@example.com>, is no longer available on YouTube: it 404’s.
Trujillo: I say, “Jack with a K.” [15:39] I continue scanning down Chavez’s Pastebin. I am reading out loud.
Tafoyovsky: “I can send you also the Defango video.”
Trujillo: “Yes, please do. Ok, I am sorry for taking a moment here, I just want to take a look at this.”
Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm.” (He is very patient).
Trujillo: “JCS <firstname.lastname@example.org>.” Reading something that is otherwise illegible, I come to an immediate conclusion: “That feels like Thomas.”
And it does. These emails to “Carol in Cali” reek of Schoenberger’s grift.
All the elements of a Schoenberger scam are present: by now, for me, they are formulaic. I see the same patterns repeated. “Wave to NSA?” Creates the drama, mentioning “Sparrowhawk5,” which only exists in his imagination, adds fake credibility.
Then Schoenberger flatters Carol in Cali, saying that her name sounds like “an old school movie in technicolor,” followed by a fake foreign language reference with “Tre bien,” as this confabulator claims to speak 30 languages, except that Spanish, as Arturo Tafoyovsky aptly observes, is not one of them.
I could go on, but imagining Schoenberger digitally dancing with this poor old lady until he can put the touch on her for a donation or an “emergency loan” just makes me sad as hell.
Tafoyovsky: “Yes, that is true. You get better at detecting him. It actually gets not so hard.”
Trujillo: “Yeah… that email… it reeks of Thomas.”
Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm. I already sent you the email that Thomas sent me from that email.”
Trujillo: “Ok. I see the YouTube video… I got that… now did you send me email?”
Tafoyovsky: “Yes. It is the original.”
Tafoyovsky: “It is at your email address.”
Tafoyovsky: “It is sent to me, and from me, I am forwarding to you.”
Trujillo: “There it is.” [18:03]
I am initially disappointed.
Trujillo: “Is that all of it? Just “Bye bye?”
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah! But that’s typical Thomas.” [18:04]. He laughs, because it is true.
This email sent by Thomas Schoenberger from the A858 address that he used to perpetrate a puzzle on reddit–that he also used to correspond with Carol from Cali, and then also used as he pretended to be QAnon to deceive the old normie Jerome Corsi–is classic Schoenberger.
As is typical with fraudsters, Schoenberger lost track of his lies, and he mistakenly used this A858 email address to torment Arturo Tafoyovsky. And this brought the whole edifice down. That A858 email address was used by Schoenberger to perpetrate multiple scams. The least of them was a reddit puzzle, but many reddit solvers who read this and now learn the truth will feel gypped.
I am stepping through these inputs, and it takes me a minute to get it.
Trujillo: “Yeah. I am sorry to interrupt. Break this down for me. I am kind of old.” And I am. “What is the significance of this “Bye Bye” email.”
Tafoyovsky: “That it is the same email that Corsi was communicating with and took him as Q.” [18:53].
I cannot believe how absurd this whole thing is. I ask:
Trujillo: “This email address was used by Corsi to correspond with Q?”
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. That email is owned by Thomas. And Corsi communicated to that email thinking that email was Q.”
HOLY SHIT. It finally dawns on me. [19:26].
Trujillo: “I see it now. Now I see it. This… this PasteBin… shows… that Thomas email account in correspondence with JCS too? mewkew3? What I am not seeing is any indication that Corsi believes that one of them is Q?” (I am still reading…).
Tafoyovsky is very patient with me. The evidence is right in front of me with the “To:” field occupied with the single character “Q.” He explains.
Tafoyovsky: “Maybe it would help if you would see the video… Defango explains a little better how Corsi used, it was kind of like… if you donated constantly to Corsi, if you donated each month to Corsi, maybe I am wrong on this, if you donated every month to Corsi, he would blind cc you with correspondence that he would have with Q.”
And this indeed rings a bell with me, as Jerome Corsi sold subscriptions on Gab.ai to subscribers who received “inside information.” These Gab subscriptions were a thing until Gab was de-platformed and that messaging service could no longer process credit card payments.
Corsi masqueraded as an analyst, writer of multiple “New York Times bestsellers,” with “intelligence community” connections that did not actually exist. I researched Jerome Corsi and I uncovered no contractual relationship between him and any agency of the US government. Ever.
Corsi was never an employee, a contractor, or a subcontractor for the US government. His own biography on LinkedIn confirms it. If Corsi ever enjoyed a relationship of any kind with the US intelligence community there is no evidence of it, and he will never produce any.
When challenged, Corsi will predictably say, “that is classified,” and he will pretend that he can say no more. And it is true that the intelligence community never confirms nor denies. But take this from me: graduates of US government intelligence courses, whether conducted at The Farm or Harvey Point, or Fort Meade, Fort Huachuca or Fort Bragg, can recognize one another through petit indicators that elude non initiates. We know our own, and Corsi is not one of us.
Corsi never served in the US intelligence community, Corsi was never trained by any agency in the US intelligence community, and Corsi is no expert at “military intelligence communications.” The gobbledegook that QAnon dishes out in ludicrous Q drops is not a classified communications system. I was trained on such systems. (CSSP, Alameda Naval Air Station, 1986). I know them when I see them. This ludicrous verbiage is not a classified communications system. It is, in fact, a fantasy.
Corsi persuaded Paul Furber and Tracy Diaz that he was an intelligence community “insider” and they believed him because they never met a real one. They also desperately wanted Corsi to be legit. We might think that old men in proximity to their demise would make no time for such bullshit, but we would be wrong. Someone may wish to remind Jerome Corsi that he will take no gold with him when he dies.
Trujillo: “Ah,” I say. “And this was something that he was selling on Gab.ai.”
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, I think so. Gab.”
Trujillo: “He was doing some kind of subscription thing on Gab.ai.”
Amazing: Jerome Corsi now receives a whopping $60 a month from Patreon. At one time, he was raking in far more dough. How far the mighty fell—unless… unless Corsi is still making money through an association with Patriot’s Soapbox? I no longer pay attention to Corsi, and I cannot stand to watch Patriot’s Soapbox.
Tafoyovsky: “I remember promoting him. He used every single bennie that he could gain money out of.”
I do not think that Arturo means that he actually promoted Corsi back in the day. Again, we must remember that English is not his first language. I think that he meant that Corsi used multiple angles to wrest income from his audience. Amazon book sales, Gab subscriptions, donations via PayPal, and Patreon patrons. Corsi was paid $15,000 a month by Alex Jones as InfoWar’s Washington DC Bureau Chief, until his spat with the exquisitely coutured Roger Stone.
Trujillo: “That guy was greedy. Really greedy. So when did Defango do this video?”
Tafoyovsky: “It was like one year ago. April 1.”
(Defango TV, “Jerome Corsi and Qanon, Army Jack and A858 Coders or Shills compromised?” YouTube, April 1, 2018).
Trujillo: “Yeah. Yeah. I’m looking that up now. April 1st. Yeah. Alright. So what we got here is emails indicating that Corsi is talking to Jack. Is that correct?”
Trujillo: “We got indications that Jack is Thomas.”
Tafoyovsky: “Yes. Not only by email, but by this other person, let me send you the image, that is Donna Emerald, she says that she was in communication for six months with someone… that he was calling himself “Jack.” (THIS WAS THOMAS).
I intend absolutely no offense with this observation, but it strikes me that Ms. Emerald was yet another matronly mark for Schoenberger to scam. Donna Emerald’s YouTube channel reaches 87 subscribers.
Trujillo: “So you think that Thomas has been Q all along.”
Tafoyovsky: “Uh, no. I am sure that Thomas was the influencer. Or…”
Tafoyovsky: “In different aspects. Like with Corsi he was there for awhile until Corsi was eventually removed from the team. He always had influence via Snow White and others that he knew within the group… just by his association with Tracy Beanz (Tracy Diaz)?” [23:37].
I am thinking, who was Snow White? Oh yeah… Unanimous on BitChute… and @SnowWhite7IAM on Twitter:
Or… in other words: Lisa Clapier née Rudd, aka Pistis Sophia and @SnowWhite7IAM Activist Media.
Tafoyovsky: “(Unintelligible). That’s—I think that’s enough.”
Trujillo: “So let me think about this for a minute. What was the significance of the tweets that came out today?” [24:05].
Tafoyovsky: “The significance was that we used three references… what do you call it? Like, three arguments that, with evidence, and also it makes sense, it fits, about the involvement of Thomas with this specific LARP. With this one that connects not only to QAnon, but to his old puzzle, Pi.Mobi, that he used to infiltrate Cicada. We’re basically like hitting two birds with one stone.“
Trujillo: “Got it. Ok. Now I’m tracking with you, I’m starting to understand this. This is confusing. You got to make it simple for an old guy like me.”
Tafoyovsky: “It’s ok. It’s good reference for me when I do the videos.” Arturo is very patient and respectful with me. Talking with him is a blizzard of personalities in the Truther Movement that I never heard of, and a crash course in the intricacies of Cicada 3301—that “most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age.”
I cannot help comparing him to Manuel Chavez III. Tafoyovsky is Mexican, and courtesy comes naturally to him. Chavez is American, rude, contemptuous, quick to assume betrayal–which makes sense when you consider that he was betrayed by Thomas Schoenberger and in turn betrayed the secrets of Cicada 3301. Betrayal is a repeated theme in the psychological makeup of Chavez.
Trujillo: “Do I have your permission to go ahead and do a transcript of our conversation here? I’ll send it to you before I publish it. I do not have to publish this. If you think it should be published I am happy to publish it.” [25:27].
Tafoyovsky: “You know, I’ve already told you what I, why I talk to you, what I want is that–to get, if something is going to be saved for history–that it be right.”
Trujillo: “Ok. Because that is what I would like to do. I think, I mean at this point so far, just taking… from a meta-standpoint, we have a connection between Cicada and Q, and right now Defango is having the most influence on how the Cicada narrative is going to be documented.” [26:13].
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, and that’s the thing, that is why I’m worried, is that, because Thomas has to be amputated from (telling his kitty no!) Cicada, because he is not Cicada, he got officially kicked out, he has no documentation, no creative, uh, he is not creating anything working for the puzzle or anything.” [26:34]
Trujillo: “Right. I understand that it was Kryptos who was doing the puzzles.”
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. And he is doing his own mess on his own, (Arturo is still talking about Schoenberger, and has not yet shifted over to talk about Kryptos, whom I will discuss in some detail momentarily) and he is using different outlets on social media to propagate and maintain that narrative.”
“And even Defango, I don’t know, [27:12] I talked to him so many times to stop associating him (Schoenberger) with Cicada… that’s why I tried to like, Thomas is fake Cicada. This not only goes to Cicada, also they work through Anonymous, Lisa Clapier or Snow White, Sam I Am, is Unanimous–that is the feminine side of Anonymous, there are other little groups and stuff that work in that same way.” [27:45].
Upon investigation, it turns out that Lisa Clapier nêe Rudd’s criminal record includes felony convictions for writing hot checks and other offenses. I am struck by the proliferation of felons in the Q’verse–and even within Cicada 3301.
Arturo Tafoyovsky tells me, “and yes, she has a worse criminal record than Thomas.” Which is a whopper statement, because the criminal history of Thomas Schoenberger is lengthy, indeed. Then Arturo tells me some gossip, that I will investigate in coming days: “she ran over and killed her husband.”
I can only say, “WHAT?”
He walks the statement back slightly, saying, “Maybe I’m wrong about the husband but she did run over someone and killed him, it was classified as an accident or something.” (Arturo Tafoyovsky, personal interview, August 10, 2019).
Monkey Savant, “08/02/19 LARPSLAYER 7 : REQUIEM 4 QANON (FINAL DEBUNK) + WIKILEAKS + UNITY4J,” YouTube, August 2, 2019.
Tafoyovsky: “And, maybe you have not seen other clips that I put out… we, I recorded six months ago? Remember that I told you I find out this group Unity4J, involved with Thomas, also involved with QAnon, and WikiLeaks? We got a friend that analyzed the data from social media and stuff… and that stuff goes back to the Russian Embassy.” [28:21].
I am struck dumb and I sit silent for a moment.
Tafoyovsky: “I am sorry… I am struggling with the translation. The net of people, that communicate between each other, that are involved in MAGA, and puzzles, and in WikiLeaks… is very interesting.”
I find my voice again and I ask:
Trujillo: “What is the connection of the Russian Embassy?” [28:57].
Tafoyovsky: “Well, it is people… to that point, I really… I do not know. And on that point, I am ok with not knowing.” [29:16].
Trujillo: “It is ok to say you do not know. It is important to understand what you do know. But it is even more important to know what you do not know. That is ok.” And nobody can dispute that delving into matters potentially implicating the Russian Embassy should be done with due care and discretion.
Tafoyovsky: “It is simply that there is a part investigating that, you know, you just got to get to a point where you feel safe.”
I am laughing. [29:43] Arturo turned up a possible Russian Embassy link to a fraudulent conspiracy that exploited the notoriety of WikiLeaks and Julian Assange for profit!
Tafoyovsky continues: “And not go in and mess with other stuff, and basically this comment was just in reference that it is, in fact, a big connection between people, maybe most of them in an informal way… and I think that it is testimony on why it has been so hard to… to expose, and… [29:56] to fight against the defamation, I guess.” [30:26].
Trujillo: “It is interesting to me because I had a long conversation with Defango yesterday, or the day [30:39] before yesterday (it was May 22, 2019, transcription is underway)… and uh, he was telling me that in the next couple weeks President Trump is going to do something in a definitive fashion that proves that QAnon is a LARP, it’s not connected to the US government in any way. He said that we’re going to see that in a couple of weeks. [30:58]. So I am kind of watching for that. But, you know, Defango did not want to tell me. Or be specific. He likes to play his games.” [31:00]. (And I am still waiting, two and a half months later).
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. That is what I do not like about him. Like, I sent you what he tweeted… after what I discovered. And now he comes out and says, “Oh, I knew all along, but I didn’t want to say.”
Trujillo: “Right. Right.”
Tafoyovsky: “I want him, I know he needs to win. [31:35]. I understand him. And I would be totally ok if he would take all the glory. For example.”
Trujillo: “Yeah. Yeah.”
Tafoyovsky: “But I see him do that kind of stuff in comments. And I like… I can’t, like… it would be more harmful for him.” [31:32].
Trujillo: “Don’t engage.”
Tafoyovsky: “Excuse me?”
Trujillo: “Don’t engage. Let him win. Let him talk.” [32:05].
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, that is what I’ve been trying to do, and he just adapts his story around it. [32:12]. And I don’t mind. I mean, I am not going to lie to him.” [32:23].
Tafoyovsky: “But he can… I understand that his life has been screwed up also.” [32:34].
Trujillo: “I think you nailed it when you said that he wants to win. He needs to win. I think that sums it up in a phrase. He needs to win. You know? Desperately. So let’s just let him win, and we’ll just make sure that the information gets out.” [32:58].
Chavez lost his composure when I published this interview because I published it before I published an interview with him. As infantile as that is, I understand Chavez. He is at times overwhelmed by inadequacy. His pursuit of fame is an attempt to fill a gaping black hole at his core. His history is one of betrayal, he cannot trust anybody, least of all himself, because no one understands his inadequacies better.
Chavez’s interview, which I will publish on this site in coming weeks, is gigantic. We talked for nearly three hours, and a host of characters and events needed to be explained for the interview to make sense to a lay reader who is not a daily watcher of a niche category of YouTube videos.
Rather than ignoring this interview, Chavez was compelled to read it–on his YouTube channel. As he read it, he mocked Tafoyovsky for citing research previously done by himself. He called me a “fool” and a “douchebag” because he thinks that I am choosing sides. Instead of feeling validated because Tafoyovsky cited his solid research, research that was duly noted by me, Chavez accused Tafoyovsky of stealing from him.
I am meticulous in matters of attribution. There was no theft. There was acknowledgement of good research. The proof of that is in this interview.
“So the other news today, we got Lestat actually coming out with an interview with some fool (Chavez is referring to me). I actually talked to this fool, too. I talked to this fool I believe before Lestat but I guess he posted Lestat’s interview before he posted mine, because–well, I don’t know why. I called him a douchebag because he posted Lestat’s shit before my shit and Lestat’s shit is always half true.”
Chavez is approximately 31 years old, with 20,000 subscribers to his YouTube channel. When I was 31 years old, I was advising detachments of the Peruvian Drug Police in the Upper Huallaga Valley in combat. I was a combat veteran of service in the 2d Ranger Battalion, and an alumnus of the 1st Special Forces Group. I was honored by President Ronald Reagan at the 1984 State of the Union Address. A search on my birthname Stephen Trujillo turns this up with a click.
Chavez and I live in different worlds. Because I published an interview with Tafoyovsky first, his imaginary rival, Chavez calls me a fool and a douchebag. A smart person would wait until his own interview is published before calling the writer a douchebag. But we are not dealing with smart people here. This is my fault. I selected this topic because I am interested in it, and these are the characters involved.
Chavez craves fame. I will make him famous. His role in these historical matters justifies it. Calling me childish names will not change one word of the history that I am writing.
Because information is my priority, the historical record, and Arturo Tafoyovsky wants the historical record of Cicada 3301 to be accurate, as do I, we are allies in that aim. For these are cypherpunk ideals, and Cicada 3301 is a cypherpunk enterprise. Information needs to be free. Those are not just stirring words, they are more than a t-shirt slogan.
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, I just try to do my stuff and not, like don’t try to direct any kind of [33:17] aggressiveness or hate on what he does… but, uh… it maybe gets me… But maybe that’s just me, reflecting on this.” [33:25]
Trujillo: “Let me sum up here. Basically what you’ve done, is you have connected [33:41] Corsi to Jack. And we know that Jack is Thomas. OK?”
Arturo considers and then agrees.
Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm. Yeah. I am not the only one that made the connection between Corsi and Jack. Because that came out basically kind of as a leak. A year ago.” [34:06]
Trujillo: “Right. Ok, so Corsi is connected to Jack. Jack is QAnon.” [34:15].
Arturo Tafoyovsky clarifies the statement: “You can call it the essence. [34:26] You know because there is the Bakers, and the people that have the tripcode and stuff?”
Tafoyovsky: “You can say that they are posting Q. But I am sure that at one point they lost Thomas, like, because you know, the posts start changing.”
Trujillo: “Yes they do.” [34:50] And indeed the Q drops did change. The iterations of QAnon will be examined elsewhere.
Tafoyovsky: “The tone and stuff. So I’m sure because that is what he proposes to do. So at the start of it, they had the favor of Thomas, because also it was his baby, and then he lost it and they lost Thomas and therefore the way that Q posted changed.” [35:15].
Trujillo: “Well. Actually it was at that time, I got to go back and look at the dates. But uh, Corsi came out and said, a new QAnon has been designated at the highest levels…”
Arturo cracks up because this is one of the stupidest things imaginable and it really happened. [35:33].
Trujillo (continues): “… and this is just out of Corsi’s imagination. This is basically Corsi saying, “we just made up a new guy to be QAnon. And we’re going to continue.”
Trujillo [35:46] (continues): “And everyone just said, “oh, ok,” I mean, they trust this guy, this old guy, Corsi, who claims to have connections to the intelligence community, and guess what Arturo? He doesn’t. There is no connection to the intelligence community.” [36:03].
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, I’m sure, like Robert David Steele…. that he’s supposed to be like this secret agent, covert operations… (crosstalk)… Well, actually you can Corsi, and uh, there’s a connection I think that I might be, I might have to… I recall that there was a connection between Corsi, Stone, RDS.” [36:35] “Well. Anyway. Anyway, RDS was pushing QAnon, like crazy…”
Trujillo: “Yeah. Well, RDS… could be–he is a candidate for being involved.” [36:57].
Tafoyovsky: “Well, RDS, If you followed him up to the grossest of the LARP echelon, and you get to the ITNJ International Tribunal of Natural Justice.”
Trujillo: “Mmm-hmm.” (Agreeing).
Tafoyovsky: “There are a lot of other LARPERs in that thing, [37:19] and that it is connected to a bunch, but, like, that is another topic. But we are also on that…anyway.” [37:30].
Trujillo: “Interesting… Ok, so sum up this in a phrase. What is the significance of the tweets that you posted today.” [37:40].
Tafoyovsky: “Well, the significance is that we have proven that the same person that started the puzzle known as Pi.Mobi that eventually [37:59] infiltrated the real Cicada group, uh, and that same person or owner of that account influenced, or was in communication, and there were…. uh, interactions, or sending and receiving of information, portraying himself as QAnon… uh, at the same time Corsi was promoting to his donors that [38:38] they would receive like, special emails that only him and Q shared… and those, and not only that, and by a third person that was in communication with Jack… and Q, and stuff, that it is Thomas.” (He laughs, because this is just so ludicrous).
“And I think that… that it’s, I don’t think… it is… without a doubt, the biggest evidence that we could, that anyone has come [39:23] with, regarding any identity that you can put on QAnon.”
Trujillo: “I agree.” I do not think that there is any question that Thomas Schoenberger used his A858 email address to masquerade as QAnon to deceive Jerome Corsi for an unknown period of time. We can integrate this, I think, into an analysis of the iterations of QAnon. As I said: such an analysis is underway, and will be published in due time.
Tafoyovsky: “Partially or absolutely. But no one has that. And that, because I think that he is the puppet master… because like I said, connected to many others, if we take care of that… everything else is just going to start popping up, like it has been in these past days…” [39:59].
Tafoyovsky: “So I feel great about it—”
Trujillo: “You should.”
Tafoyovsky: “It has taken more than a year, if you add up the stuff, so I am thankful and happy…” [40:19].
Trujillo: “Just be careful. Thomas… that guy is so toxic. I mean I come across his fingerprints, his footsteps, everywhere, and he is involved in really terrible, terrible shit. Be careful.” [40:47].
Tafoyovsky: “Alright, man. And, uh… this next phase I am sure is going to be a little bit busy and stuff. But I am trying to put out a really good video… I know that it’s a video that I make that it has to be good, because it is meant to go… to really… to affect or make a change. I hope so. I will try my best.” [41:36].
Trujillo: “Well there are two ways to go. You can make a home run, or you can go step by step, carefully, chronicling everything, documenting everything, and at the end of the process you have an overwhelming preponderance of proof that shows what happened. Two ways. A home run, or the long slow way.” [42:15]
Tafoyovsky: “Maybe we can make a chimera out of those things.”
I am laughing. Arturo cracks me up.
Tafoyovsky: “Well something has to be done, because there is—I know that Thomas is not going to stop. Because he can’t stop.”
Trujillo: “He can’t.”
Tafoyovsky: “So I feel under pressure because maybe he’s going to do something stupid…” [42:36].
Trujillo: “It is inevitable. he can’t keep track of his lies. And this is how we trip him up, this is how we find out, he’s using the same email address for different things, this is how we catch him.”
Tafoyovsky: “And he starts, what do you call it? Wasting all his [43:23] bullets, for example, all his friends, he burns them up, so he keeps going and going… Like I find out there was this character, an associate of Thomas from the start, that is known as iamzero, he has some videos just trashing the older members like brotherBox and ?? and I just figured out who he is. He is an anchorman for Fox.”
Trujillo: “Who? Who?”
Tafoyovsky: “His name is Tim Young.”
Trujillo: “Please do. How do you spell Zeros? You told me the name he was using… on YouTube, what was it it again? How do you spell Zeros?”
Tafoyovsky: “iamzero? Zero? Zeroes? Tim Young. I have it here, he actually followed me, It was so weird. After I met Thomas, he followed me on Twitter, and well, he is like a famous person, he has a bunch of followers, (nearly 228,000 on Twitter) and I really, like, felt awkward. Why is he adding me? And stuff. Mostly because… one second… (typing, focusing, distracted by something)… Oh. Excuse me. Uh… What was I going to tell you?” [45:10].
Trujillo: “Tim Young?”
Tafoyovsky: “Oh, yes. Here it is. He added me. And uh, I remembered I tried saying hi, and he never answered me back… that’s recently on twitter, his twitter account, I can send you the iamzeros channel and video…” [45:52].
Trujillo: “Please do… ok, so what is this guy doing? What is his connection to everything?” [46:10].
Tafoyovsky: “Well. That is a good question. Maybe he…”
Trujillo: “He is connected to Thomas, right?”
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. Yeah. I have a bunch of text messages that they talked to each other and they are actually planning like, to take over Cicada, or this group, or that group, it is like their… one second… You can just hear by the voice… I have more evidence, but if you have a good ear, uh… it’s really easy… oh. The give-away is how he curses. He makes special emphasis, and you know, the word patterns? The way he talks, it gives him away. Also the necessity of covering his face… is just a signal that he is concerned about his face.” [47:25]
Trujillo: “Tim Young.” A third rate comedian trying to hit the bigtime as a political commentator does not interest me, and he clearly lacks any qualities that coincide with Cicada 3301. I get back to business. “What is the current status of Cicada?” [47:54].
Tafoyovsky: “We are on stand-by until Thomas goes away. (Laughs). Each of us are doing stuff, and we talk, but nothing is going to be public until Thomas goes away.”
Trujillo: “Ok. Who is currently participating in this?”
Tafoyovsky: “Maybe you can say like, maybe 9 to 10 persons. But I cannot really say their names. Besides from the persons who are already out, most of them are still with us. Yeah.”
Trujillo: “That’s good. I mean, Genki is still involved with you?”
Somebody is talking to somebody, as immediately after I asked Thomas Schoenberger for an interview on April 16, 2019, DJ Genki, qntmpkts and a number of Schoenberger sock accounts blocked me on Twitter. I recently sent Genki and other Cicada insiders interview requests. If they read this, they should consider that my intent is to ensure that Cicada 3301 is accurately chronicled and archived. I am not a journalist, I do not engage in gotcha journalism. I am an old cypherpunk, a political scientist, and an historian. In my youth, I was a soldier.
Schoenberger should ask himself whether he wishes his involvement in Cicada 3301 to be characterized by his critics or by himself. So far, only his critics are talking to me. None of his allies. I strive to be dispassionate, but my analysis will inevitably be shaped by my sources.
Tafoyovsky: “That is a good question. He has not talked to me in awhile. I got angry at him. Because he did not want to… he was… yeah, I can tell you about that, but off the record. I do not like talking about other people.” [49:17]. (We never do discuss it).
Trujillo: “Sure. It is alright. It is ok. So… What’s Kryptos doing?”
Tafoyovsky: “Kryptos… Bruno?”
Trujillo: “Leaping Lemur?”
Tafoyovsky: “Oh, the Liber Primus?”
Trujillo: “No, no, no, Kryptos… There’s a guy I cannot remember the rest of it.” [49:46]
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. Kryptos Journal.”
Trujillo: “Yeah. That is it. What is he doing?”
Tafoyovsky: “He’s always been weird and stuff. He sometimes… [50:12] he would be like, you cannot really talk to him about serious topics, because he would just stop talking to you. He just doesn’t respond.”
“But if I send him something and start talking about anime, or anything else, you can get an answer. I think that… my understanding is he also is on stand-by. Because really Thomas has… like, he has no one… from the people that actually created things… no one is with him anymore.”
Trujillo: “Well he has his little business-side guys, Richard Lech, but they are not the creators.” [51:07].
Richard Lech makes zero creative contributions in the internal Cicada documents in my possession, suggesting that his purpose was always to monetize the intellectual property of the order.
Trujillo: “As I understand it Kryptos was the primary puzzle maker. Is that correct?” (I already know that he was. I am just trying to get Arturo on the record so that I can compare his statements with those of other Cicada insiders. I make no secret of my methods or my purposes. As I say, I am an historian and a political scientist with cypherpunk convictions).
Tafoyovsky: “Yes. You can say that. Yeah. Sure. I mean everybody helped in some way.” (Internal Cicada documents in my possession do indeed reflect a collaborative brainstorming process where multiple participants contribute. My next installment will showcase this).
“What I know of him is that he [51:39] couldn’t care less of putting his name out there. It was kind of a thing with all of us… but… Thomas took care of him like he was the golden child. And there was another one, (another individual by the same name) but like, because of the compartmentalization… that he kept us different, and told us different stories about each other, so we did not talk to each other… a lot of us like really came together, but some of them really got hurt. And they do not want to know about this anymore.”
(After Thomas Schoenberger and his co-conspirators were exposed by Manuel Chavez III trying to commercialize Cicada 3301 and broker a deal with Hollywood–a deal that excluded the digital artists who actually created its intellectual property–those Cicada insiders were irretrievably alienated).
Trujillo: “Who is Z?” (I already know the answers to these questions but I am asking in order to confirm what other Cicada insiders told me).
Tafoyovsky: “Uh, that’s him. That’s another thing, that was another thing… it always bothered me that Z changed his names and his handles. I think that sometimes it was even Thomas.” (It was. At times, Schoenberger himself masqueraded as Z, or Z 3301).
“Because sometimes Z presented himself with the name Richard Miller (which is his true name). But it’s somebody, another story. There was another Richard Miller within Thomas’s group.”
Tafoyovsky is referring to Dr. Richard Alan Miller, ex-husband of occult writer Iona Miller, an associate of Thomas Schoenberger’s–all of whom will be addressed in detail in the next installment in this series.
Tafoyovsky continues: “Which made it complicated. But then I saw different people… at the end… I could say that: Kryptos is Z.” [53:30]
Trujillo: “It gets very complicated very quickly.”
Tafoyovsky: “Yes. Between the people that we came together and talked, we uncovered a lot of things, but unfortunately many people like Z, they completely isolated themselves because of all this trouble.” [53:54].
And this is the fallout of the Schoenberger era and Cicada 3301. Due to the greed of a con man and his co-conspirators, amazing artists were alienated and an incredible creative engine was wrecked. I am writing the early history of Cicada 3301. This interview with Arturo Tafoyovsky is its first installment. I hope that Cicada continues, and outlives me. Someone else, I hope, will write the final history of Cicada 3301.
Trujillo: “It was very ugly. So I do not remember if we talked about it. Who has the PGP Key now? (Defango was emphatic in saying that Kryptos did, personal interview, Manuel Chavez III (Defango), May 22, 2019, transcription ongoing).
Tafoyovsky: “I really can’t tell.” (He knows but he cannot tell me). “It’s a person that has access to the internet… limited access? Yeah. That’s a good hint.” The hint flies right over my head. I know who likely holds that PGP key, but I am trying to confirm it through multiple sources.
Trujillo: “You do not think that Kryptos has it?” [54:39]. (Sometimes a frontal attack works, so I try this Hail Mary).
Tafoyovsky: “Uh, no. That is something that almost broke a fight between us, as I was telling him from the start actually, I think that I mentioned it when I talked to brotherBox… an interview… that I called him out, like, can’t you see the mess that is going on?”
“Why don’t you put out a fucking PGP message… A PGP message disavowing Thomas. And I got answers, “No, that will only make him more important, that will only validate him, we do not want to burn the PGP on him.”
“I [55:19] was like ok, that makes sense and stuff, and I had to… yeah, I trusted him, so I was like, ok, but then it came to the point where people were feeling suicidal and other stuff started happening more intense, (referring here to Pavana and Jesse, see video above), that is when I said fuck that, this has to stop, and part of that was why Genki does not talk to me anymore. [56:02]. Because I was pressuring him, I was asking him for help. And I got angry that he didn’t want to, he has his motives and stuff… but I resent that he doesn’t want to fix it. I think that’s more important.” [56:34].
So do I. But then, I also want to know the answers to all mysteries.
Trujillo: “He doesn’t want to step up.” [56:34].
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. I think that is because he does not like confrontation. He is a very noble soul, and you can actually listen to him in one of the videos I uploaded, called Inner Sanctum, that’s him talking.”
Lestat (Arturo Tafoyovsky), “cicada3301 /innersanctum.” YouTube, April 22, 2019.
Lestat, “genky,” YouTube, December 28, 2018.
The video “/innersanctum” is a voice-masked version of a monologue by DJ Genki that was previously uploaded by Arturo Tafoyovsky and is now preserved within my growing LBRY archive of Cicada materials: @Samizdat.
Trujillo: “I will look for it.”
Tafoyovsky: “Have you seen it?”
Trujillo: “I think I may have. I am not sure. I have seen so much of this stuff.” [57:12].
Tafoyovsky: He smiles. “I can send it to you.”
Trujillo: “Yes, Please do. What is this you sent? iamzero.” (Laughing. Watching a video).
(Silence, listening to Tim Young curse up a storm like a total loser).
Trujillo: “Arturo how is it possible that this is dated October 31, 2015?”
Tafoyovsky: “What is dated?” [58:34].
Trujillo: “This video, “A big f you to cicadasolver and btotherbox,” by iamzero.”
Tafoyovsky: “That is where… the date that he made it. Like, that’s the [57:37] date where Thomas was infiltrating Cicada, and that was their operation, after the IRCs, after the brutes on Facebook?” (He means attacks on the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channels and the bruteforce attacks to take over Cicada-solving pages on Facebook).
“He went under the name of John Magnus, we also proven that it is him because there is a Pinterest account that’s in the name of John Magnus, and his address is pinterest.com/tstger13, I can send you the link also.” The email address tstger13 is a long-known address used by Thomas Schoenberger.
Trujillo: “Ok, So who is this guy in the mask.”
Tafoyovsky: “That is Tim Young. The anchor from Fox.”
Trujillo: “Oh my God.” [59:49]. Tim Young is not a rocket scientist.
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah it’s crazy.” Smiling. “I am going to send you something also so you can compare it, you can see the style…”
(Silence)… Arturo talks to his cat.
Trujillo: “/innersanctum,” ok…”
Tafoyovsky: Laughing. “It is so funny. I also have more evidence, if you want to do the voice…”
Arturo looks tired.
Tafoyovsky: “I sent you, just uploaded…” (unintelligible.) [1:01:01].
Trujillo: “Ah. Washington Examiner.” Nodding. Watching a video. (Silence)… “Why is it… that I do not like this guy, Arturo?”
(Apparently Tim Young’s last appearance in the august pages of The Washington Examiner, a sister-publication of the same rag that started the Fusion-GPS mess that was taken over by the DNC and the Perkins Coie law firm as a cutout for the Hillary Clinton campaign, was in 2018: maybe they came to their senses and chose not to renew his contract? No idea. Just speculating).
Tafoyovsky: “Excuse me? That guy? Tim Young?”
Trujillo: “Yeah, Tim Young.”
Tafoyovsky: “He spells out, like this bad vibe.” [01:01:18].
Trujillo: “He does.”
Tafoyovsky: “He like, he hates… I don’t know, it also like, bothered me… like it made me feel like, yeah, that like… really negative people (I am shaking my head) and the one that spreads that kind of attitude, like, resonates negative activity, but snowflake negativity.”
Trujillo: “Very much. I agree.” [1:03:15].
Tafoyovsky: “He just tells them to, you know, put out a fight and they coward out? But yeah, he does give that negativity, and also in that video with the mask, you just spread it, and it is the same sentiment. Also the voice tones…” [01:03:40].
Trujillo: “I am going to watch it.”
Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. So do that. I got to make a stop in the bathroom and I have to attend to other matters.”
Trujillo: “Go take care of your doggie, man.” I was under the mistaken impression that Arturo is a dog owner. Like myself, he is a cat custodian.
Tafoyovsky: “Maybe, what time is it for you there?”
Trujillo: “It is like almost 8 o’clock at night.”
Tafoyovsky: “Eight o’clock?”
Trujillo: “Yeah. I’ll be up for another couple of hours, then I gotta go lay down.” I am an old man. When my body and my eyes and my brain ache, I need to take a break.
Tafoyovsky: “I will send you a message. Lots of people are like, asking me a bunch of stuff.”
Trujillo: “It looks like Twitter is blowing up for you.”
Tafoyovsky: “Yes, it is going to be… well, who knows. Let’s see what happens.”
Trujillo: “Just be careful.” [1:05:06].
Tafoyovsky: “I’ll try.”
Trujillo: “Just be careful. I do worry about you.”
Tafoyovsky: “Thanks. I will be ok. I just wanted to…”
Trujillo: “Thank you for taking the time to talk with me. I appreciate it. This is complicated stuff for an old man.”
Tafoyovsky: “Oh, it’s ok, and like I said, it also helps me, what I want is to transmit–my cat is crazy–but I wanted to transmit the message effectively.”
Trujillo: “That is right. We can help each other. Go take care of your kitty.”
Tafoyovsky: “Ok. Thanks. And have great day—ah, night. On your side.”
Trujillo: “You do the same, I’ll talk with you soon.”
Tafoyovsky: “Ok. Bye bye.” [1:06:00].
End recording: [01:06:00].
End Transcript: Conclusion
This was my initial transcribed interview with an insider in the enigmatic order, Cicada 3301, the chief of graphics, the primary videographer during the Middle Period, Arturo Tafoyovsky (Lestat).
I conducted the next interview in this series with Manuel Chavez III (Defango) on May 22, 2019. That interview and its accompanying transcription and commentary are now up to nearly 40,000 words in length. It delves the origins of QAnon and the synergy between Q and Cicada. It will be published in coming weeks, with installments in both the Q Files and the Cicada Files series.
These articles are the foundation of a forthcoming work on QAnon, and potentially on Cicada 3301.
This interview with Arturo Tafoyovsky confirmed the identity of the Cicada cryptographer Richard Miller (aka Z, Z 3301, Kryptos, Kryptos Journal, Lethargic Lemur and other pseudonyms), introduced Dr. Richard Allen Miller and his ex-wife, the New Age esoteric writer Iona Miller, and exposed the Fox network talking head Tim Young.
In his review of this interview, Manuel Chavez insisted on calling Tim Young “Tim Barnes.” Perhaps Tim Barnes was doxxed and I am unaware of it. Regardless, Young/Barnes is tangential to these matters. The status of Cicada’s PGP key was broached: its present disposition will be confirmed in my next installment.
The role of Richard Lech in the Cicada order was addressed. The former “head composer” Michael Levine will be discussed in detail in the next article in this series, and the events that led to the dissolution of the order explained. Other inner order members like DJ Genki were introduced. Further interviews with other Cicada insiders are underway.
We were introduced to the nefarious quilt trafficking of Ms. Denise Matteau, Thomas Schoenberger was revealed as the perpetrator of the reddit A858 mystery, the author of the Pi.Mobi puzzle, “Carol from Cali’s” grifting correspondent “Jack with a K,” and Jerome Corsi’s mysterious Q.
For a period during Corsi’s ascendance as a Q whisperer, as an interpreter of Q drops in early 2018, Schoenberger masqueraded as Q and deceived the old deceiver, if only for a while.
For those former members of Cicada 3301 who cannot decide whether they wish to speak with me, I say this: I am writing the history of Cicada 3301. I possess sufficient data to complete an initial draft. More information could make that history more detailed. Everyone who wants the truth about Cicada 3301 to be preserved for history should collaborate in that.
This interview features the views of Arturo Tafoysky. For those who disagree with those views, or hold different views, the only way to ensure that their dissent is chronicled is to talk to me. Or they can, of course, write their own histories.
More, much more, is coming. Stay tuned.
August 14, 2019.
August 15, 2019: Chavez errors revised.
August 17-8, 2019: Denise Matteau corrections made.
Estéban Trujillo de Gutiérrez