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Month: August, 2019

Cicada Files: gHOST3301 Interviewed

Cicada gHOST3301 Dustin757 YT May 27, 2019

Dustin757 (gHOST3301), “#Thomas Schoenberger #Defango #Fake Cicada 3301,” YouTube, May 27, 2019.

On August 19, 2019, I talked with an early member of the original Cicada 3301, known as gHOST3301 on the deep web and as Dustin757 on YouTube. I was delighted to conduct this interview, as no inner circle members of Cicada’s Early Period (2011-4) are publicly known, and accessing them is difficult.

This interview with gHOST3301 is the first conducted by any social scientist with an inner circle member of Cicada’s Early Period (2011-4). This is my second interview in the Cicada Files: the first was with Arturo Tafoyovsky (Lestat), chief videographer during a part of the Middle Period (2016-8), published earlier on this site, August 15, 2019.

I am researching a long interview (40,000+ words) that I conducted on May 22, 2019 with Manuel Chavez III (Defango) about the nascence of QAnon. Chavez was also an inner circle member of Cicada 3301 late in its Middle Period (2014-8), and he was personally responsible for its implosion on May 7, 2018.

Chavez’s central role in the Cicada narrative, and his account of his betrayal of the organization’s legendary secrecy is riveting and historic. I am exercising due care in the transcription of his interview and my commentary upon it, and I will release it in installments in coming weeks.

These preceding interviews with Tafoyovsky and gHOST3301 are necessary preliminaries to the Chavez interview, providing crucial context. Interviews with further Cicada insiders will give us unprecedented insight into this most enigmatic phenomenon of the internet age.

In this interview, gHOST3301 and I review the complicity of Thomas Schoenberger, formerly one of two “head composers” in Cicada, whose greed and mismanagement of Chavez triggered the collapse of the order. We discuss the prospects for a reemergence of Cicada 3301 on January 5, 2020. We address Schoenberger’s colleagues, composer Michael Levine and television producer Richard Lech.

I first asked Thomas Schoenberger for an interview on April 16, 2019. He ignored me, then he blocked me on Twitter, and he directed his co-conspirators to do likewise. I was subsequently blocked by DJ Genki and qntmpkts, despite an absence of prior interaction between us, and by several Schoenberger sock accounts.

I later reiterated my invitation to Schoenberger in the interest of fairness and completeness. He continued ignoring me until I published my interview with Tafoyovsky: then he complained that I did not ask him for a review before publication. I no longer need Schoenberger’s input. His critics and a large tranche of internal Cicada documents in my possession evocatively speak for him.

gHOST and I discuss the tenuous ownership position of Schoenberger’s profiteering cabal. Schoenberger and his crew may be able to sell the story of Cicada to Hollywood, but withstanding legal challenges by the artists who actually created Cicada’s infamous puzzles may prove difficult: the project could be paralyzed by a single judicial injunction.

Cicada 3301 Copyright Research Report SONY Levine Lech CompuMark p.4

Page 4 of a 5-page Copyright Research Report by CompuMark / Clarivate Analytics on behalf of SONY Pictures Entertainment, Inc., dated July 2, 2018.

gHOST and I discuss the origin story of Cicada 3301, and the role of Debian Linux creator Ian Murdock, who was known as early as 2011 as The Architect: Murdock was allegedly a leading member of the original Cicada clandestine cabal, which remains covert today. We resuscitate a puzzle made by gHOST3301 at the personal behest of Ian Murdock, known as The Message, and illustrate it for a later generation of Cicada loyalists.

gHOST and I discuss certain IRC channels as the native habitat of the earliest Cicada members, whose number and actual identities remain unconfirmed. We contemplate Liber Primus, core text of Cicada 3301, which remains mostly unsolved. We touch upon clues for solvers, and agree to galvanize the solving community.

gHOST and I discuss the tragic deaths of former Cicada member Sam Fullerton (Zelador Petroff), and Sheriff’s Sergeant Michael Stephen, and illuminate false paths propagated by Schoenberger. We restore focus to the cypherpunk ideals that germinated Cicada 3301.

Those who are interested in Cicada 3301 and the perplexing puzzles that it created will find this interview interesting. For the political scientists in my audience, this is an analysis of organization, functions and goals of Cicada 3301.

I detail how Cicada was organized, how its organization changed over time, how it functioned, and how it sought to achieve its goals. For social scientists, this is a glimpse into a digital secret society, a cypherpunk order whose lifespan is not yet complete.

For that global community of solvers who are attempting to break the layered encryption of Liber Primus, a community which remains stymied, I hope that this interview renews their impetus.

Revised in 17,466 words on September 1, 2019, and published with the kind collaboration of gHOST3301 on September 2, 2019.

Cicada Lestat Logo Transparent

Cicada Wiki p. 56 Decrypted May 2014

Page 56 of Liber Primus, the only page deciphered to-date. It reads: “AN END. WITHIN THE DEEP WEB THERE EXISTS A PAGE THAT HASHES TO: [hex string here] IT IS THE DUTY OF EVERY PILGRIM TO SEEK OUT THIS PAGE.” The clear text was deciphered by the solver cluosh from the Freenode channel #cicadasolvers, released in May, 2014.

gHOST3301 Interview (Audio Only) August 19, 2019.

Transcript (minimal commentary).

Edited and Redacted Revision.

00:10 Audio begins.


gHOST: “Alright can you hear me now, Stephen?”

Trujillo: “Now I got you.”

gHOST: “Awesome, sorry about that. I would start the video for you but I have some stuff going on in the background. So maybe in the future, we can do it. This was a little bit last minute, for OPSEC reasons I really do not want to show too much behind me.” [00.32].

Trujillo: “I was going to say if there is a better time, I want you to do this when you have time to focus and relax. So if we need to put this on pause, we can.” [00.44].

gHOST: “I was thinking we can probably talk this time and get to know each other, I can give you some background and then we can come back again and actually sit down when I have a little more time during the week to where we can actually do an in-depth interview uninterrupted for an hour or two.” [01:06].

gHOST: “I know Lestat very well and he speaks highly of you. I also know that you talked to Defango. We have never really been close, I first found out about Defango a couple of years ago. When I was searching—every now and then I will search my name on Google just to see what pops up and I did it a couple years ago and some videos popped up that were connected to my name and I clicked on one of them and it was Defango back in 2015 or 2016, I’m not sure on that, he was speaking about me, that  is how I first kind of found him.” [01:55].

gHOST: “Since then I kind of just keep an eye on him. (Laughs). Lestat and myself are really close, I’ve been working for the past five months with him on his Discord, we’ve done quite a few interviews together, we try to come up with a way to help expose Thomas (Schoenberger) and all these lies. And so it has reached a pinnacle point where we are done with phase 1 and are crossing over into phase 2.” [02:36].

gHOST: “Phase 2 consists more of bringing social exposure to him to where—I do not think that we can ever really stop what he does, how he co-opts movements, I do not think that will ever stop, but if we bring enough media and public exposure, and if enough know about him and know kind of what he does, the signature of his puzzles and things that he creates, it will allow people to see the false path and not go back down that or get lost. And that’s kind of what Lestat and I are talking about.” [03:19].

gHOST: “It has got to the point where people do not know what is real and what is fake. It’s merged.” [03:25].

Trujillo: “I think all we need to do is help him expose himself.”

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “We just need to let him walk into his own trap. I have a very poor opinion of him, I’ve never spoken with him, but I’ve been doing a lot of research, and as you put it, I would not want to break breadsticks with him.” [03:55].

Cicada Lestat TS Levine Lech Insurgent Media SONY TS Criminal Record

The co-conspirators who are attempting to monetize Cicada 3301. Of the three, Thomas Schoenberger played a role in the order’s Middle Period. Internal Cicada documents suggest that Michael Levine’s role was mostly passive, yet he was considered a “head composer,” like Schoenberger. Richard Lech appears rarely in internal order documents. His role was apparently always to monetize the organization, in essence committing a vast act of theft against the creative geniuses who crafted its perplexing puzzles. Indeed, the creators were omitted from the draft contracts in my possession. The videographers, musicians and cryptologists were treated like hired help, to be engaged on a piecemeal basis, rather than sharing percentage-wise in the phenomenon that they created.

gHOST: “Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Well he has, that’s what Lestat and I talk about. He has a history of being a con man, if you go outside Cicada, and look at his character for who he is and the stuff that he has done, and you see how many people, or other people in the music business, and you start going through and reading, it’s like that old saying, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is probably a duck. And all these people are saying these negative things about this man, and calling him a scam. There has got to be some kind of validity to those statements.” [04:35].

Q Schoenberger Diane Nordstrom Rapsheet @straymagnet

Trujillo: “Well, I have researched his criminal records, I haven’t really gone into it, I just threw a couple of links up, but I will go into it when I do a complete treatment. Unfortunately he’s been—I do not know how in the hell he infiltrated. Can you tell me how Thomas Schoenberger suddenly came in like that and took over? Can you explain that to me?”  [05:11].

gHOST: “Yeah, definitely, when Lestat and I talked about that, how we were going to explain his taking over the movement–when you have a group or a movement that is faceless, when they do not have any kind of social media, you know, a personality that interacts with social media and lets people know “this is us, I’m a spokesman.” When you do not have somebody like that, and the whole point of Cicada was never for money or fame or acknowledgement, it was all based on, this is a group movement, every individual needs to find their own path and higher consciousness, but when you go in the group, it is about the group movement, and not about individuals.” [06:01].


gHOST: “Exactly. That is what I told Lestat from the very beginning, the very fact that he is coming out and saying that he is behind it defeats its very purpose from the get-go. That is why I said over the years, it has never been about the Messenger, it’s always been about The Message, that is what matters.” [06:28].

gHOST: “And so many people fail to understand that, and so that by far is the easiest way to know. If somebody is coming out and they are trying to do this in public, more than likely they are not doing it for good reasons. It’s all about money. He wants the trademark. That’s what he wants. He wants the trademark.” [06:52].

Trujillo: “The trademark is now held by Primus Holdings, LLC. I have not delved into that to try to figure out who the stockholders of that LLC are, but I think that we can assume that we know. If we do this correctly, we can make it irrelevant. He can own his LLC, but his ability to demonstrate ownership of the intellectual property of Cicada 3301, that’s another issue. And it will fold, it will just collapse, at the slightest nudge of a legal challenge. Because he can demonstrate no ownership.” [07:39].

Cicada TM Primus Holdings LLC ARG

Trujillo: “I am in possession of a significant cache of documents that illustrate the conversations that were had, during his era. And they demonstrate that he was a participant in a creative process, but he wasn’t really a leader. They say “there are no leaders.” Well one was more equal than others to make the decisions that needed to be made, but that is not enough to grant him an ownership position of that intellectual property.” [08:15].

Trujillo: “So he can own all the trademarks he wants, it’s going to be useless because when SONY or Warner Brothers or Insurgent Media or whomever it is, when they realize how tenuous his ownership of the intellectual property is, they’re going to walk away. He won’t be able to make a deal. The only way that he is going to be able to make a deal is if he cuts everybody in for a piece of the stock. If he conducts that LLC like an appropriate Limited Liability Corporation and cuts everyone in for a piece.” [08:52].

Trujillo: “If he is overwhelmed by his greed, it will be his doom. But if he cuts people in, if he says, ok, gHOST, you were involved from this period to this period, we are going to allocate you x-number of shares in the LLC, and that will entitle you to x-amount of the profits, or the proceeds, then guess what, then he will be able to make a deal, because then people will cooperate.” [09:18].

Trujillo: “If he doesn’t want to do that, if he is overwhelmed by his greed, he and Richard Lech, and Michael Levine, they can be easily shut down and I think that they realize it. These guys, this is their tableau, this is how they think, they are thinking in terms of business. These are not creators, man, these are not artists, these are con men.” [09:43].

Cicada Richard Lech StaffMeUp Profile Cicada TV Series

gHOST: “Definitely. And that is what Lestat and I really talk about. He has a history of—anything that he thinks he can make some money on, he co-opts it and gets behind the movement, and he has a history of doing this, and he’s done it with other people in the music business, and in the art business, so long story short, the reason why he was able to co-opt this movement so well, we talked about this, for many hours, he —when you are a group and you do not have a designated representative for your group, then anyone can step in and say that they are part of this group, because how can you say that they are not? Because you do not have anybody who sets the standard, so what he did was, he knew that, so he decided to start making and incorporating his own puzzles that had a very similar resemblance to the Cicada puzzles, and this was the icing on the cake. He used—anyone who has done the Cicada puzzles knows that music is a big part of these puzzles.” [10:56].

Schoenberger is now known as the creator of the Pi.Mobi puzzle, a puzzle which Cicada purists consider a derivative, an imitation of the genuine Cicada product–a false path. Any purported puzzle from Cicada must be signed with the organization’s PGP key, or it will not be considered authentic. Schoenberger is also exposed as the perpetrator of the A858 reddit mystery. This is discussed in detail in my previous interview with Arturo Tafoyovsky (aka Lestat).

gHOST: “Thomas knows that, he isn’t stupid, music is incorporated, and so he has this guy, a composer, he uses the composer, to get more validity that maybe he actually is connected to it.” [11:19].

Cicada Lestat Michael Levine Co-Conspirator w TS Trademark Aug 26, 2019

Internal order documents indicate that Michael Levine, noted composer, was one of two “head composers” in Cicada 3301 during its Middle Period. Evidence of his artistic contributions to the actual puzzles is slim.

gHOST: “Maybe he’s the one creating this music to go along with these puzzles. So he uses all these small little factors to create this conception that he is behind it, that he runs it. And all of this is bogus, it is fake. He co-opted the movement, and he used it for his own gain. And he has a history of doing this in everything that he is involved in.” [11:44].

Trujillo: “This is unbelievable. I am aware that your initial contacts with The Architect took place in 2011. I’ve watched your videos with Lestat carefully, and I will look at them even more carefully after this conversation. I do not want you to be frightened by that. I want to caution you and let you know that whatever I publish incorporating our conversations, you will see it before anybody, and you will have a veto over it.” [12:20]. (Dustin757, “gHOST3301 LESTAT TALK CICADA 3301 PART 1,” YouTube, June 30, 2019).

Trujillo: “If you say, hey, Esteban, I don’t want it to be like that, I would prefer it like this, believe me, you are not going to be upset, we are going to work that out. Because my motive, my goal in this, is to simply tell the truth, from the standpoint of the protagonists, and dude, you were there. You were interacting with The Architect in 2011. Right?”

gHOST: “Yep.” [12:45].

Trujillo: “So what I need to do, maybe this isn’t the time to do it, maybe we need to think on this, but I need to flesh out those interactions between you and The Architect and anybody else because the creation history, the legend, that Schoenberger  is propagating is not holding up to water, it’s not holding up to scrutiny.” [13:11].

Trujillo: “Now you said that he might be one of the three founders. I got to tell you, I find no documentary evidence—”

gHOST: “—Yeah, [13:24] Thomas was never, I don’t ever remember saying that, but Thomas was never one of the original creators. I can tell you that I know for a fact that Ian (Murdock) was definitely connected to Cicada and I can guarantee you this, I know this for a fact, he was one of the original members, because it is kind of funny, as some months back I did a video calling out Defango and Thomas and I explained in a 6 minute long video on my channel, and I explain where Cicada came from.” (Dustin757, “#Thomas Schoenberger #Defango #Fake Cicada3301,” YouTube, May 27, 2019). [13:57].

gHOST: “It started out in Berkeley with a bunch of cypherpunks. And it’s so crazy because this big channel just released a bunch of episodes about Cicada, they released episode 4 yesterday, and they talk about tying it back to Berkeley, and it’s good to see that stuff that myself and others are saying is actually being investigated and verified to the best extent that you can verify something.” [14:32]. (Great Big Story, “Cracking the Code of Cicada 3301 | Episode 1,” YouTube, August 14, 2019).

gHOST: “What I can try to do is see if I can find some old IRC chat logs, it may take a while to do that, it’s been years, I will have to go into storage and pull out an old laptop it might be saved on. But maybe I can find some old IRC logs from 2011-2 that show…” [15:07].

Trujillo: “—That would be gold—”

gHOST: “—Definitely. That is how I originally met, I didn’t know anything about this or anything, I’ve always been fascinated with computers. I’ve always loved to program and create things and figure things out. Long story short I ended up on the same platform as a few of the founding members. A lot of people don’t know about this IRC channel but it is still up to this day and it is still running, it is called anarplex and if you look—” [15:44].

ANARPLEX Root Page Aug 27 2019

Trujillo:” —I’ve looked at it, I just haven’t logged in, I haven’t had the balls to log in—”

gHOST: “—Yeah, I got you. You can reach the IRC server from the regular internet, or through TOR, or through I2P. The guy that runs it, his name is Smuggle_r, I know him very, very well, he actually did an interview 2 years ago about the deep web and censorship and anonymity, and things like that, it’s big, it’s an actual documentary, he met with some BBC guys, he is the one who owns anarplex, he’s kept it on, he kept it online since 2008-9 give or take.” [16:35]. (canal tofu, “BBC Horizon – Inside the Dark Web,” dailymotion, September 25, 2015).

TOR The Onion Router Documentation Aug 27 2019

(The deep web, or deep net, is that predominant proportion of the internet which remains un-indexed by web crawlers, and so does not show up in standard web searches. The dark net is a segment of the deep net which is encrypted and deliberately hidden, requiring specialized software or procedures to access it. TOR (The Onion Router) is the standard example. The open internet that you are reading this article on right now is termed the clear net).

Trujillo: “What an amazing resource.”

gHOST: “Oh, yeah.”

Trujillo: “You can imagine the talent that has filtered through there, it is incredible.” [16:46].

gHOST: “Some of the most intelligent individuals that I have ever met, I met on the IRC, or people who just know a massive amount of information in a certain field. I met a guy called Wireless Warrior, the dude is into SDR and dongles, encryption, and covert operations, covert communications, he wrote the book on it. You meet some very intelligent individuals, like that, and it just so happens that I was in the right place at the right time. I’m not extra special, I’m not this, I’m not that, I just happened to be on the same platform and I interacted with people.” [17:35].

gHOST: “Over time there is alway people who lurk on IRC (sic), and they started to see who knows what, what are you talking about, how do you structure your sentences, are you intelligent, where you may eat, where you may live, based on the words that you use, there’s a bunch of OPSEC involved, but that’s what happened and it got to a point where I was reached out to, and the things that you like, the things that you talk about, are very similar to what we like and would you like to be a part of our little group. At the time they did not even call it Cicada. It was just a little group.” [18:16].

Ian Murdock Pic by Ilya Schurov, Computerra Weekly, April 4, 2018

Ian Murdock (1973-2015, The Architect), creator of Debian Linux, an alleged founder of Cicada 3301. Interviewed at the Holiday Club Hotel, photo by Ilya Schurov, Computerra Weekly, April 4, 2008.

gHOST: “I was never an inside insider, I was close, when I originally joined, there was always 4-6 members that would come in and out (sic). And that’s the best way to explain it. And to this day I really don’t know because not everybody shows up at the same time to meet, but at the time, there were 4-6 members that came in and out of there, and the main guy that I always dealt with, his name was The Architect, that is what he went by, and I truly believe in my heart that was Ian. I believe it was him. In my heart it was him. Because of the amount of knowledge that he knew about operating systems, when you start knowing how to create your own distros, you crossed the Rubicon, so yeah, this is how I originally first met these individuals.” [19:35].

Trujillo: “Have you heard of Bruce C. (Cooper) Clarke? Was he involved? Have you ever heard of that guy?” [19:45].

gHOST: “I definitely heard his name. He very well could have been. The OPSEC that Cicada has used, I cannot even explain it to you, I do not think that governments could maintain the kind of anonymity that has been pulled off. I will share something with you that I just shared that a lot of people do not know. About Liber Primus. I’m going to tell you why not one person can break it. It is because a lot of people created it.” {20:32].

Cicada Liber Primus Lestat Book Cover July 4 2019

gHOST: “This is the secret that I’m going to get to. (Unintelligible) It took a lot of people to create it so one person cannot know how to fully break it without knowing the other steps used by the others that helped create it. This was implemented in the creation of the book to help keep the integrity of the book and protect the puzzle if one decided to go rogue and public. So long story short, the Liber Primus was created with the intent that there could be somebody from within that could go rogue and try to break the book, for the public, and that is another reason why PGP keys were used, because we knew that Thomas or other individuals like him, there could be a chance in the future that they would want to co-opt and take this movement over for themselves.” [22:01].

gHOST: “So that is what I explained to this other individual yesterday, I pulled up what I wrote to them, I’m looking at it now, and I wrote to them, Thomas, yes, because he asked me, you all anticipated what Thomas would do. And I told them yes, Thomas and any others that would want to co-opt and steal the movement or go rogue and go public from within the group. This is why Liber Primus was made that way, and the reason why PGP was used to help validate the puzzle and the messages. These were foreseen calculations implemented for these reasons. We had a feeling that this was going to happen.” [22:38].

Q Cicada PGP Key

gHOST: “So the steps needed to break Liber Primus are already in the puzzle. See that’s the key. You have to solve the puzzle to get the steps. So not one individual person knows all the steps. These steps were implemented in the creation of the puzzle, so it took many people to create the puzzle, it took many people to create Liber Primus, and that was implemented from the beginning to help protect that puzzle and to help protect the integrity of the book.” [23:06].

gHOST: It’s kind of like when you make money. Not one person knows how to make the money. You’ve got between 6-7 different people who are doing the casting, they cast it out, so that one hand can’t replicate it perfectly. I was watching this thing on counterfeiting, and how to make money, and the Federal Reserve does that, they actually use 5-6 different individuals to do the hand-details of the cast that they use to print the money out. So one person can’t leave and know how to completely replicate the dollar bill. It is the same concept for the book.” [23:46].

Trujillo: “Does a clear text of Liber Primus exist?”

gHOST: “Um, yes, I’m going to say yes, I’m pretty sure. We had to have a base to work with, we had to have like a template, and then from there levels of encryption was put on top of one another (sic).” [24:10].

Trujillo: “Have you read it?”

gHOST: “Um, yes, to some extent, yes. I have not had my hands on the actual unencrypted original version where it was English before it was translated over to runes. So I have not seen that. I have seen the .pdfs of the runes before, about 37 pages before they were encrypted, which means that all you have to do is convert the runes over to English to be able to decipher a message out of it.” [24:37].

Trujillo: “The reason I ask is because there is a school of thought that posits that it is possible that Liber Primus was a concoction by Thomas Schoenberger, Iona Miller, and Dr. Richard Alan Miller. Do you think there’s any possibility that that’s correct?” [24:55].

Cicada Iona Miller Mind Control for Dummies Lestat Video November 30, 2018

Iona Miller wrote Mind Control for Dummies, and collaborated with Thomas Schoenberger on other projects. She was married to Dr. Richard Alan Miller, a notorious crank, and known associate of Schoenberger. Arturo Tafoyovsky (Lestat) posted the video on YouTube. (Lestat (Arturo Tafoyovsky), “Mind Control for Dummies,” YouTube, November 30, 2018).

gHOST: “No. There’s no possibility that that’s correct, because in the 2014 puzzle, when it was released, at the very end of that puzzle, you were linked to Liber Primus. So if you follow Liber Primus, you’ll see that it ties back to the original Cicada puzzles that had PGP signatures to verify that they’re legit.” [25:18]. (In the audio file gHOST says the “2013” puzzle. He caught this during a fact checking review: it was an error, so the transcript is corrected to state 2014).

Cicada TS Iona Miller The Count Stupid Failed Movie Project

This stillborn project Photoshopped the face of Thomas Schoenberger onto the face of the Compte de Saint Germain. Schoenberger claims to be the reincarnation of the legendary Count.

Trujillo: “Thomas Schoenberger did not show up until 2014.”

gHOST: “Exactly. Schoenberger showed up on the scene towards the end of 2015, going into 2016, they dropped their first puzzle. So, and that’s the timeline, I keep trying to give to people. That technically after 2014, no more public puzzles were released by Cicada.” [25:44].

gHOST: “That’s just so everything after that, unless you have a PGP signature, it’s not, it’s not legit.” [25:52].

Trujillo: “Who holds that PGP key at this time?”

Trujillo: “Well, you know, I think that the PGP Key is a central chokepoint here. Because without that PGP key, there’s a certain category of solvers that will not engage with any puzzle.”

gHOST: “Oh, definitely. Without that they’re not going to, it doesn’t matter how well the puzzle is put together, it doesn’t matter if—if there’s no PGP signature, they’re not going to work on it.”

Trujillo: “That’s right. Well, we know that the PGP key is valid, that it exists, because it was used as recently as 2017. That is not that long ago.” (A Guest, “Message from 3301/Cicada,” PasteBin, April 4, 2017).

Hash: SHA512

Beware false paths.  Always verify PGP signature from 7A35090F.  


Version: CicadaPG v.3301


gHOST: “Yep. Definitely. Because he—I mean, this is the reason why I got involved, because like I said, it’s gotten to the point where, you know, I told you earlier that people didn’t realize, people could not decipher what was real and what was fake.” [26:00].

gHOST: “But it’s even more than that, it got to a point where, where Cicada was being tied to MAGA Coalition and LARPs and Q and then Isaac Kappy dies, and Cicada’s brought up, it’s just like all these—I mean it got to a point where it just became ridiculous, people were trying to tie all this stuff together that had, that is not connected, and so that was another reason why I came out, just so that, to get some clarification.” [26:30].

gHOST: “You know, so that people would stop with all this, because Cicada has nothing to do with the MAGA Coalition, Cicada has nothing to do with Anonymous, Cicada has nothing to do with Q, it had nothing to do with any of these things. Now is there some members that may be affiliated with Anonymous? (sic) Yes, you know, there could be. But are all these connected in the same group? No, they’re not.” [26:54].

gHOST: “And so, it’s kind of like, light had to be shone on all this, so I agree with you a hundred percent and that’s what Lestat and myself talked about. We may never be able to fully stop Thomas, but if we can at least expose enough of him to the public, people will learn to stay away from him.” [27:13].

Cicada Insurgent Media Upcoming Projects 8-2-2019

The Insurgent Media website optimistically displayed a Cicada logo on their Upcoming Projects panel. Clicking on it leads to a password protected page. Clicking on their Team header leads to a blank page.

Trujillo: “Well, one of the ways we stop him is, we demonstrate that the intellectual property is not in his hands, and that he does not actually have a product to sell. And at that point, he’s checkmated, there’s no more game to be played. So, we have to think about how we do that. The target there is the corporations that want to buy it. Now look, I’m not a member of Cicada, I was never honored with that, right? But I am enough of an old cypherpunk to admire the ideas and to get involved to the extent that I can, to protect those ideas, ok, and I’m not going to lay back and let Thomas Schoenberger pull this shit, it’s not going to happen on my watch.” [28:07].

gHOST: “Yeah, definitely.”

Trujillo: “So um, how about this guy, Zelador? (Cicada member Samuel Fullerton). Who just died. Did you know him? [28:13].”

gHOST: “Um, personally, no, but his name had definitely come up, before, but I did not personally know him, no.”

Trujillo: “Yeah. I do not really know the story behind his death—But it definitely sounds very tragic.” [28:29].

gHOST: “Yeah. I mean, there’s quite a few people in the past two years that either were connected or seemed to have connection that seemed to have just disappeared or passed away. I’m not…” [28:45].

Cicada Lestat TS Zelador Petroff Jul 22 2019

Lestat (Arturo Tafoyovsky), “The Schoenberger Effect 2,” YouTube, July 22, 2019. Schoenberger infamously tweeted “There will be more dead truth community folks soon if they don’t learn to take the hush money.” He reportedly made this statement the day before Zelador Petroff (Sam Fullerton) died in a shootout in which he killed Stone County Sheriff Sergeant Mike Stephen. Moments after tweeting the statement, Schoenberger deleted it–but those who monitor his social media accounts captured it.

Cicada Zelador Petroff Samuel Fullerton Killed Stone County Sheriff Sergeant Michael Stephen July 19 2019 FB

Stone County Sheriff Sergeant Michael Stephen, killed in the line of duty July 19, 2019 responding to a domestic disturbance at the home of Samuel Fuller, aka Demetrius Jordan, aka Zelador Petroff, a member of Cicada 3301. (The Lone Cicada, “RIP Brother – Developments on Sam,” YouTube, July 22, 2019. It appears that Fullerton was collaborating at the time of his death with Thomas Schoenberger, “he was working on stuff for Sophia Musik,” reportedly a soundtrack for a hypothetical Cicada movie under contract to SONY.

Trujillo: “Let me ask you this. You know, you were there at the inception, I believe, interacting with The Architect. You believe that The Architect was Ian. I got to tell you. I’ve seen indications that that’s correct—” [29:00].

gHOST: “—Yeah I truly believe, if I was to place a bet, I mean, I’d go all in on Ian. There’s just too many things over too long a period that just, it just ties back to him, somebody was not going to know certain things, only somebody who’s in a certain field that’s prescribed would know these things so easily, you know”? [29:23].

Trujillo: “Right. Well, what we do is we lay down the timeline on top of that and look at what happened before and after his death, those indicators are going to tell us, they’re going to confirm or deny and help bolster a story—I’m still on the trail of Bruce C. Clarke. I have found no evidence that he’s involved. We’re talking about an 88 year old man at his death, ok?” [29:49].

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “My route to this, is to ask you, do you have a clear text of The Message?”

gHOST: “Of the actual… Message… oh, you mean from the song that I created? [30:07]. Is that what you’re talking about? Umm… actually no. I could sit back and translate it all over to English and print it out to English because what I did was, I took—I know exactly what you’re asking about now.” [30:20].

gHOST: “When I talked to The Architect and he came to me it was in 2014, towards the end of 2014 going into 2015, we spoke, and he asked me to create a last, a small puzzle, not a full-sized puzzle, but a small puzzle, that mainly focused on a Message, and what he wanted, what truly he felt in his heart, and what he wanted to portray to the mass (sic). And he kind of told me that, you know, just based on his ideals and based on the puzzle, and how we have to constantly improve ourselves and push the boundaries of our higher consciousness, and to, you know, find the peace within—that was one thing that I heard him say before and I’ve said a couple times since then. He used to call himself a peaceful warrior and so do I because the battles that we fight are on the inside, and that’s really what this whole thing was about. The goal is not to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. That has been the goal from the very beginning.” [31:50].

“He used to call himself a peaceful warrior and so do I because the battles that we fight are on the inside, and that’s really what this whole thing was about. The goal is not to live forever, the goal is to create something that will.”

gHOST: “It was never about the money, it was never about the notoriety, or the fame or the recognition, it’s always been about The Message—and trying to get people to understand that there is a lot more to this life than what’s being presented to us and there are so many secrets out here and the human history of us has never really reached a beautiful pinnacle point, we’ve always reached a certain point and then we collapse upon ourselves before our own selves.” [32:23].

gHOST: “And we have a history of doing this, and so it’s kind of like we’ve reached that Armageddon point where we have to change as a whole or we will kill, we will be the destruction of ourselves, there is no way around it.” [32:36].

Cicada gHOST3301 original file name 1431748107817

gHOST: “So that those are the main ideals that we try to push in these puzzles, is for people to look within themselves, if you want problems to stop around you then you need to start with yourself, and if every human can do this, then there is not going to be any problem.” [32:48].

(Messages in the picture text are binary at the top: “Fear not, I am the first and last.” At the bottom, hex ascii: “Hear what others can not… See what is not in plan (sic) site” The lead decipherment is a reference to Revelation 1:17: “And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and last.”)

Cicada gHOST The Message Binary to Text from 4ch

gHOST: “And you know, we know that that’s not, we know that not everybody’s going to—but the fact of the matter is that if enough people can start making a change, it’s a movement, and with a movement comes action, regardless of how small, how little the movement is, there’s going to be an action, an equal and opposite reaction, regardless of how small it is, and so that’s what I try to explain to people, even if you are a small pebble, if you drop a pebble into a lake, eventually those ripples will hit the bank.” [33:16].

gHOST: “It may take awhile, but eventually they will spread out, and so that was the whole thing, you know, and so, yeah, to get back to The Message, that’s what he wanted to portray, that’s what he wanted to get across to people, is that you know, within this life—so for example, the first part of The Message was from The Great Dictator, the movie with Charlie Chaplin.” [33:40].

Charlie Chaplin Official, “Final Speech from The Great Dictator,” YouTube, March 10, 2016.

“I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business.

I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone—if possible.

Jew, Gentile—black man—white. We all want to help one another.

Human beings are like that.

We want to live by each other’s happiness—not by each other’s misery.

We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone.

And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone.

The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.

Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed.

We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in.

Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.

Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind.

We think too much and feel too little.

More than machinery we need humanity.

More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness.

Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.

The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together.

The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men—cries out for universal brotherhood—for the unity of us all.

Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world—millions of despairing men, women, and little children—victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.”

gHOST: “And to me that was always outside of that being used in that context, that’s a very powerful message. Just within itself. And that message really speaks to the human condition, because we truly have been brought together, we have all these amazing things, but yet, we fail to go to the next level.” [34:05].

gHOST: “You know and so it’s kind of like that was, that was why the first part of that was used in The Message, was to try and portray to people that we have to work together, that we are in this all together, and that, these things, that we created, you know, allow us to communicate, they allow us to bring us together, but yet we’re so distant, we’re so far from each other, and yet we have such animosity for one another, but yet we’re so  interconnected.” [34:33].

gHOST: “And that’s why that was incorporated in the first part. And then that’s why, in the second part of The Message, was kind of more into like looking into what truly makes you happy. What, why are you here. Why are you living. And that was kind of why—” [34:50].

Trujillo: “—Are those the actual words of The Architect?”

gHOST: “To some extent, yes. I can’t, because this has been years, I can’t really sit here and tell you these are like his words, like verbatim, what he said—”

Trujillo: “—No, no. I am not asking that. I mean was the voice that you hear, the old man speaking, was that his actual voice?” [35:09].

gHOST: “Oh, no, no, no. That wasn’t his voice. What I did was, I edited that from a movie.” [35:15].

sonuye1, “Meet Joe Black – Speech,” YouTube, July 31, 2012.

“Love is passion, obsession, someone you can’t live without. I say, fall head over heels. Find someone you can love like crazy and who will love you the same way back. How do you find him? Well, you forget your head, and you listen to your heart. And I’m not hearing any heart. ‘Cause the truth is, honey, there’s no sense living your life without this. To make the journey and not fall deeply in love, well, you haven’t lived a life at all. But you have to try, cause if you haven’t tried, you haven’t lived.”

gHOST: “So what I did was, yeah, yeah, so he took, like I said, he explained to me, he gave me an outline, pretty much, of these are his ideas, and this is what he would like to portray, and he asked me, you know, to make a puzzle that incorporates this, and that’s going to be The Message. I said ok.” [35:30].

gHOST: “So he said, once they break, you know, they have three or four steps that they have to break, so after they break that final step, the final output would be the song, The Message.” [35:42].

gHOST: “And so, and so that’s why that was done in that manner. And so what’s so crazy, is that, you know I did that for him, um, and then, you know, it was like I wasn’t sure what to do with it. I kind of sat on it, and then, you know, the situation happened with him, and it was like, he contacted me and was like, listen I’m not—and this is what is so crazy because I—nobody truly knew, I think what was going to happen to him. And because I’ve never, I never thought that he would go that route, to want to, uh, because from what people are saying, it looked like a suicide.” [36:20].

Cicada Ian Murdock Suicide Tweet December 28 2015

Mohit Kumar, “RIP Ian Murdock, Founder of Debian Linux, Dies at 42,” The Hacker News, December 30, 2015.

gHOST: “And so, you know, he wasn’t, he wasn’t murdered, because you know I’m not a coroner, I’m not an investigator, you know, like a detective, you know with forensics, or whatever, so—but from what we can tell, um, you know, he took his life.” [36:36].

gHOST: “And so what I’m getting at is, when I spoke to him months before that situation arose, I never once got that off of him that he was, in that frame of mind, that he was—you know what I’m saying?” [36:51].

Trujillo: “Yeah.”

Cicada Ian Murdock Police Abuse Tweets December 29 2015 PasteBin

Ian Murdock, “Ian Murdock Tweets,” PasteBin, December, 2015.

gHOST: “But at the same time, I can see—it’s so crazy, at the same time I can kind of see how. It was like he had this wonderful thing, he had this wonderful thing… and it kind of just fizzled out and got—you know, it, it—when it started, when it originally started, it was like being in a movie. It was like things were happening so fast. You know. And this and that, and I think it kind of got to a point where, he seen (sic) like an idea of his, being… I don’t know, I guess maybe not appreciated as much, or cherished, I just, I don’t know.” [37:28].

gHOST: “I tried to sit back and kind of think over it myself, you know, over the past couple of years, and figure out why things, you know, transpired the way that they did… you know and it’s kind of like some people are like, no I would have known, I would have said something, it’s kind of the same boat I’m in, you know, if I would have known I would have been like, hey, what’s going on, this and that, um, and so he, yeah, so you know I released it, and then uh, we heard news that, you know, that he was no longer with us.” [37:58].

gHOST: “And so, I mean, and that really affected me, after that I, uh, you know, like I told Lestat, that was the very last puzzle or anything that I ever created that was tied to Cicada. I’ve never created anything since then, um, for the group. I’ve never, I haven’t created any puzzle that tied, you know—that was the last thing, you know, and then, so honestly, it’s, 2015 was really my last active year, with them. And I haven’t created anything else since, using either Cicada or the logo.” [38:32].

Trujillo: “I think that we can rejuvenate, maybe get a rebirth of those words, if you can help me with the clear text of, of—I mean I can find out the first part, I can research that out, but the second part is difficult for me to hear, and I have not tried, to try to, to deconstruct the layers of the file. I don’t know if I can even do it. But if you can help me with a clear text of—” [39:02].

gHOST: “Ok.”

Trujillo: “—what that second part says then we can make sure that that clear text gets a rebirth, it gets a new life, it’s heard yet again, alright—”

gHOST: “—umm hmm (yes)—”

Trujillo: “I mean it’s out there, and people who are searching will encounter it, but maybe we can help people find it. You know.” [39:24].

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “It’s very powerful, it’s very powerful and it’s frustrating to me that I can’t quite hear everything.”

gHOST: “Yeah, yeah. Definitely. I mean anybody that’s ever ran across that, um, has always said that. They always said that it touches them and moves them.”

Trujillo: “Yeah.” [39:42].

gHOST: “I mean, and it’s because that was, and for me to hear that, you know over the years, it makes me feel happy inside to know that I was able to put something together that, that arouses these feelings in people, that, that wants them to, you know what I mean, it’s like a sparkle in the eye, you know, and they need to start living, I need to start looking at things, you know, it’s—for me to even have this small little play in that to me is just amazing man, you know.” [40:16].

Trujillo: “I get it. I get it. Well, when we do this, how do you want me to refer to you? Do you want me to call you Dustin? Or gHOST? Or—”

gHOST: “—Whatever, I mean, whatever is more comfortable to you. I’m not, umm, I mean I can go by Dustin757, you can call me Dustin, you can call me gHOST, whatever you feel is more comfortable for the end viewer and everything else, I mean because it’s, you’re going to be the one putting the format out and everything, so whatever you think works better for kind of what you got going on, we can just see what happens.” [40:56].

Trujillo: “This, this is going to be very much a collaborative effort. I mean you saw Lestat’s interview, so you see how I work—”

gHOST: “—Yeah—”

gHOST Statement 1

Trujillo: “You see how I do this. I mean it’s Lestat’s words, you know, and I put my commentary in there… Lestat saw it, you know, before it was published. I asked him, is this cool? Are you good to go with this? And he said yeah. Pull the trigger. So I did. And… a lot of people just don’t give a shit.” [41:26].

gHOST Statement 2

Trujillo: “But some people do. Alright. Some people do. And I’ve had some very interesting feedback as a consequence of that, and I think that when you and I work on our interview together and do something it’s going to cause even greater repercussions, and I mean repercussions in a good way. OK.” [41:43].

gHOST Statement 3

gHOST: “Oh, definitely. Because Lestat, I mean because Lestat works, Lestat and Defango really know Thomas better than most people, because they actually (unintelligible) in the woods with him, like they know him, (unintelligible), like they know him. And so talking to Lestat, and you’re right. That’s what’s going to happen because Lestat has told me that Thomas has tried to use my name, and you know, I wasn’t connected with him, he’s brought my name up to try to get some validity to them or to what he’s saying. Or attack. Like he knows somebody… so definitely, so like when my name comes out, and yeah: So however you want to do it that’s fine. If you just want to do gHOST or if you want to do Dustin, because like I said, about six months ago I finally just drew my line in the sand, I’ve been watching this go on for almost three years, I can’t sit back and just watch this anymore.” [42:37].

gHOST Statement 4

gHOST: “Like I said once I started seeing it tied in, to Mr. Kappy and all this other stuff, and to Q, and then this, then it started being called a LARP, and I was just like alright, this has gotten out of hand. And so that’s what caused me to step out of the shadows, and say listen, because I, I, because like I said it was just never about the individual, it’s always been about the group, the group effort trying to push something, and so, that’s why I never wanted to come out as an individual, but like I said, it got to a point where somebody had to try, somebody had to speak out, that was not involved with this LARP war going on between all these parties. And so that’s kind of like, I’m not, I’m not in these debacle debates with Defango and Thomas and Frank Bacon and this person and this person and Leppo and this and that—I’m not, I’m an outside party coming into this. So I have no monetary gain, I have nothing to gain from this, if anything, this is going to create more problems in my life.” [43:44].

Trujillo: “Well, why do we have guys like brotherBox act like they have an ownership position in the Cicada franchise?” [43:51].

gHOST Statement 5

gHOST: “I’ve still been trying to figure that out. I honestly believe because they, I think because they’ve been trying to solve it for so long that they just, and they just go like—and I mean it’s understandable, if you’ve been working on something for a long time, and your little group has kind of gotten more attention than all the other solvers, I guess you’re going to kind of feel like maybe it’s yours, a little bit. You know? I mean that’s understandable, but at the end of the day, they’re still solvers. They’re not, they don’t, (laughs), like I don’t know how to explain it, but they never was an original part of the group, (sic) like, I hate to say it like that. I understand that they put, you know, years and hours and this and that into it, umm, but you know, you kind of knew that getting into it.” [44:42].

gHOST: “The first puzzle, as they say, the first one is always the easiest. It’s to hook you. After that, the other ones become harder, you know?”

Trujillo: “Is Frank Bacon going to be successful in bringing off a rejuvenation—a rebirth?” [45:00].

Cicada Schoenberger Sock Accounts!

gHOST: “Ah, no. No. I don’t think so. I know that uh, I think that Frank Bacon is, from what I’ve heard from Lestat, he’s a righthand guy of Thomas. I’ve heard other people say that it might be Thomas, because supposedly Thomas has like a hundred sock accounts or something, so I’m not sure. But I do know that Frank Bacon is subscribed to me on YouTube, and he’s a follower of what I’m saying, I know that for a fact. Because it’s funny, but as soon as I started putting out the very first video calling Defango out and calling Thomas out, uh, all these like seven or eight different characters all subscribed to me at one time, and when I started looking at the names, and I said, ah, you all (laughs) we got a bunch of Thomas’s guys right here.” [45:53].

Trujillo: “Lestat says that there is going to be a new puzzle come January 5th, and I hope it’s true.”

gHOST: “Well this is where, yeah, yeah, I don’t want to interrupt you but yeah just for that, so I don’t miss that, yeah, he, umm, Thomas, excuse me, Lestat did ask me about three months ago, when me and him were trying to get all this information to come out, umm, would there be a reemergence.” [46:21].

Cicada Lestat gHOST Talk Part 1 June 30 2019 Pentagrams Illustrations

Dustin757 (gHOST3301), “gHOST3301 LESTAT TALK CICADA 3301 PART 1,” YouTube, June 30, 2019.

gHOST: “And so and I told him, umm, yes, but at the same time, like I’m not, I can’t speak for the group like that. You know what I’m saying? I’m affiliated with it, I’m connected to it, but I cannot speak for the group, so like I said this is a group movement, so it’s, I can’t say that yes, we’re going to create something, yes we’re going to give a valid PGP key on January 5th, 2020. Do I want this to happen? Yes. This is what ideally, this is what I would like to have happen, is phase 2—phase 2’s already started and what we’re doing now is a part of phase 2.” [47:03].

Cicada gHOST3301 Lestat Talk Cicada 3301 Part 2, YT, July 6, 2019

Dustin757, gH0ST3301 & LESTAT TALK CICADA 3301 PART.2,” YouTube, July 6, 2019

gHOST: “And so once we get enough clarification on this, you know, and we get Thomas—and we’ve exposed him enough, then that’s when I truly believe a legitimate puzzle has to drop, so that we can just verify everything and say listen, we took care of him, the fake paths have been uncovered. Now here’s the real path, let’s get, let’s continue back down it. Because what I would like to do is, if we create, if another puzzle is created here in the very near future, I would love for this puzzle to help kind of summarize and help complete Liber Primus.” [47:44].

gHOST: “I would like this next puzzle to incorporate more hints or clues that allow these individuals who have been working for years to solve this to be able to finally solve it and move on to the next step.” [47:56].

Trujillo: “Is page 56 a key?”

Cicada Wiki p. 56 Decrypted May 2014

Page 56 of Liber Primus, the only page deciphered to-date. It reads: “AN END. WITHIN THE DEEP WEB THERE EXISTS A PAGE THAT HASHES TO: [hex string here] IT IS THE DUTY OF EVERY PILGRIM TO SEEK OUT THIS PAGE.” The clear text was deciphered by the solver cluosh from the Freenode channel #cicadasolvers, released in May, 2014.

gHOST: “Yes.”

Trujillo: “Is it connected to Constellations?”

gHOST: “Yep. Page uh, page 56 and also page umm…seven (7) if I’m not mistaken.” [48:14].

Cicada Liber Primus Page 7? From Front Cover, Original File Name Onion_3_v3

Depending on how you index the pages of Liber Primus, this is either page 7 (counting from the very first page including the cover), or page 3 (counting from the page that begins “Welcome,” after the page marked Chapter 1, the only Chapter). Its deciphered text states: “SOME WISDOM | THE PRIMES ARE SACRED | THE TOTIENT FUNCTION IS SACRED | ALL THINGS SHOULD BE ENCRYPTED | KNOW THIS | 272 138 shadows 131 151 | aethereal buffers void carnal 18 | 226 obscura form 245 mobius | 18 analog void mournful aethereal | 151 131 cabal 138 272”. Like page 56, this page includes numbers. All representations of Liber Primus are courtesy of the uncovering-cicada Wiki.

Trujillo: “And how about the orb that’s held by the Christ figure in the Da Vinci painting. Is that connected?”

Leonardo Da Vinci Salvator Mundi Detail Left Hand Transparent Orb

gHOST: “Let me see… 1, 2, 3, yeah, I just want to go by memory, it’s the 7th page that, uh, those dots that you see lined up on the 7th page in Liber Primus, yes, those apply to the constellations, so does page 56, umm, and for the orb, umm, run that one back by me again, I was talking while you were…” [48:44].

Trujillo: “There was an orb held by a Christ figure…”

gHOST: Mm-hmm….

Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), Salvator Mundi, Oil on Panel, Private Collection, copyright 2011 Salvator Mundi LLC Photo Tim Nighswander, Imaging4Art

Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), Salvator Mundi, Oil on Panel, Private Collection, Ⓒ 2011, Salvator Mundi LLC. Photo Tim Nighswander, Imaging4Art. The three dots in the orb correspond to the dots on page 56 of Liber Primus and on two other unsolved pages.

Trujillo: “In a painting by Leonardo Da Vinci, it was just purchased by a Middle Eastern, a Saudi potentate, a prince, and he is holding a crystal orb in his hand and the orb is anomalous, because there’s dots (unintelligible) to light dots, and they appear to, you know, be in a stellar configuration, so my question was, is that a false path? Or is that a valid indication?” [49:19].


gHOST: “I truly believe that’s a valid indication. I mean that’s… I mean because, if you look at the puzzles many times, you know, astrology (he said astrology, not astronomy) has been brought up in these puzzles, and Thomas seen that (sic), and that kind of stuff, and he used that for the 2018 and 2019 puzzles. He jumped right up on the constellations…” [49:39].

Cicada Lestat Chart the Stars

Trujillo: “He wrote an article about that painting.”

gHOST: “Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean like I, pretty much everything that’s been in every single… in the 2012, 2013, 2014 puzzles, had—if you see something inside there, it’s legitimately tied to something in real life. I mean…” [50:00].

Trujillo: “This is one of the problems that I have. I interviewed Defango (Manuel Chavez III) for like three hours, he told me that he recovered deleted files from a lady named Linda, she was the girlfriend, the cohabitation—co-habitating girlfriend of Thomas, and he used her Macintosh to work on Liber Primus and Defango says that he recovered the second half in clear text, and I haven’t been able to get it out of him yet. And he’s kind of touchy, he’s mad at me because I published Lestat’s interview first, you know and honestly I didn’t intend to piss him off, I didn’t do it, it didn’t ever occur to me that he would, you know, flip out the way he did, but he got mad, because like, there’s a real rivalry between those guys and the thing about Defango is the guy’s got to win, you know. He’s absolutely got to win, and if he’s not winning, he’s mad. So he called me a “fool,” and a “douchebag,” and I don’t take kindly to that…” [51:08].

Cicada Defango YouTube Reviews Lestat Article 1-18-29 Timestamp August 13, 2019

Defango TV, “News #hongkongprotest #lightwave – Defango TA 8-13-2019,” YouTube, August 13, 2019.

gHOST: “Yeah, that’s not, he, he did—it’s funny because like he recently, like I said, I been (sic) watching his livestreams and I did, I know exactly what you’re talking about, about three or four days ago he brought up the Lestat interview between you and Lestat, and in that stream he was frustrated, he definitely was frustrated in that stream and he did say actually, going by memory now that I’m thinking about it, why was Lestat published before mine would be published.” [51:40].

“So the other news today, we got Lestat actually coming out with an interview with some fool. I actually talked to this fool too, I talked to this fool I believe before Lestat but I guess he posted Lestat’s interview before he posted mine, because—well, I don’t know why? I called him a douchebag because he posted Lestat’s shit before my shit and Lestat’s shit is always half true. He did a pretty good job, you know, going through all these letters.” (Defango TV, “News #hongkongprotest #lightwave – Defango TA 8-13-2019,” YouTube, August 13, 2019). 

Trujillo: “Dude. As infantile as that is…”

gHOST: “Yeah, that’s….” [51:44].

Trujillo: “He flipped out. Look, and I didn’t do it because I’m choosing sides. I did it because Lestat’s came out to 10,000 words and Defango’s is 40,000 words, man. And unless—”

gHOST: “—Yeah, that’s—”

Trujillo: “—Unless you have an understanding of the amount of work and labor and attention to detail and focus and concentration that goes into producing a document of 40,000 words alone, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You know?” [52:11].

Trujillo: “And Defango, he’s learning disabled, he can’t really read, and he can’t write, ok, this is why he does these videos, ok, and I feel sorry for the guy, alright? I really do. But he’s found a way to compensate and work around his disability and that’s cool, right? That’s good. But he lashed out, you know, so I don’t know if I’m going to be able to get more out of him or not. It doesn’t really matter, like I said, I got him on the record for three hours, then again: he’ll see his interview before it’s published. You know, I’m not trying to engage in gotcha journalism or ambush anybody. I’m trying to produce an historical artifact that will, you know, clear up one of the great mysteries of the internet age.” [52:53].

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “And I’m trying to ultimately do it in a way that serves the goals of that great project, alright?”

gHOST: “Yes.”

Trujillo: “And it’s not going to be beholden to the egos of people like Schoenberger or of Defango, alright? These egos. They’re going to get put in their place.” [53:13].

gHOST: “Yeah. Definitely.”

Trujillo: “They’re going to get put in their place. Like I said, I’m not trying to ambush anybody. I’m trying to do a straightforward direct job of political science and history, alright?” [53:24].

gHOST: “Yep.”

Trujillo: “And I’m trying to produce an artifact that will endure, that can endure and resist attacks and analysis and that will ultimately be used going down years, decades, into the future. That’s my purpose. Because the ability to write the complete definitive history of Cicada—dude, I don’t know if it can be done. Because who else do I talk to? After I’ve talked to gHOST3301, and I’ve already talked to Defango. I talked to Lestat and I continue to talk to Lestat, we talk often. Who do I go to next?” [54:01].

gHOST: “Yeah, that’s going to be, that’s what I’m saying. That’s going to be hard. Because that’s the whole thing, is that it all goes back to it’s never about individuals.”

Trujillo: “Well, this is where we get into egos, like do I try to talk to Nox Populi? Do I try to talk to Wanner? You know. These guys, they’ve got egos, they’ve got agendas of their own, and their agendas probably conflict with mine. You know?” [54:31].

For the record: my agenda is to excavate the details of Cicada 3301 from the standpoint of political science, examining the organization, functions and goals of that secret society, and to produce an historical artifact that can inform future research down the decades.

It is not my intention to interfere in the moneymaking schemes of anybody, including Schoenberger, Levine and Lech, or even of Marcus Wanner and brotherBox or anybody else. But I will continue my research, and it will yield what it yields. If that runs afoul of certain schemes, so be it.

gHOST: “Yeah. See the problem is going to be that you’ll be able to find people after 2015 that may have been connected to Thomas and Cicada, but trying to find somebody that predates that like myself is going to be very, very hard. And I’m just going to be honest. It’s going to be hard.” [54:54].

Trujillo: “Like, I’m asking you. Who do I talk to?”

gHOST: “If you mainly look me up you’ll see that, I’m not on, if you want to find me you find me on the deep web. The only social media that I’m on is YouTube, I’m not on anything else, you can’t find me on Facebook you can’t find me on Twitter or anything else. And a lot of the members are like that, we don’t want to be—it defeats the whole purpose. When you are known, you now can be targeted, and that’s the whole concept, we don’t want the light exposed on us, we don’t want to be known as individuals. That’s when it becomes dangerous. And the fact of the matter is, and this is what I really want to touch on, because a lot of people don’t understand this.” [55:44].

gHOST: “If you work in the United States and you are working on encryption software, I’m telling you now, you are under investigation from intelligence services. They will watch you. They will monitor you. They may even try to jail you. Because that is one thing that they do not like, is when people start working on anonymizing software and encryption software. Because immediately the government goes whoa, whoa, whoa, and so that is mainly what we have been working on. So why would we want these things to be public? Like, I don’t know if I can explain to you but (laughs) if you just look at what Thomas has done it completely defeats the ideas behind Cicada. Like it’s the complete opposite. It’s crazy, man.” [56:33].

Trujillo: “It is. It is. No, I think you just explained it very accurately. There’s a conundrum there. I guess my thoughts are this. Those people who must remain anonymous, they can speak with me. And again, I will never publish anything without authorization, and that includes how they want to be described, if they want to be described. If they want to be on non-attribution, that’s fine, I can just say I spoke to somebody and that’s it, say nothing further, right?” [57:12].

For those individuals who by dint of position or knowledge possess information pertaining to Cicada 3301 which should be disseminated, I encourage you to contact me: anonymously if you prefer. You will need to establish your bona fides with me, but if you prefer to remain anonymous, I can accommodate that.

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “But I can put out the information. Because there is some information, held by others, that should be shared. That needs to be shared. That can assist and support, our agenda, which is to get the truth out. Right? And can preserve this beautiful thing that needs to be preserved. OK? Because I refuse to permit Schoenberger to have the final word on this. It’s not going to happen, man. Not on my watch.” [57:42].

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gHOST: “Yeah. I’m with you, man. I’m there with you.”

Trujillo: “That’s not happening. So these other guys, that you know. You know. Think about it. And if it makes sense to you, just tell them, hey: Talk to this guy. Keep it under wraps. They don’t have to come out, they don’t have to give me a name. They got to give me bona fides so I know that they are legit, they are for real, right?” [58:08].

gHOST: “Yeah, definitely. I can definitely, umm, I’ll just put it like this. Because I don’t want to speak too much. But they’re… long story short, umm, I’m not going to sit here and say if I’m still active or not, but I will—because it’s just a little too much. But what I will say is, I do know, some active members that are still very active. Umm, and I will speak to them and see if you know, maybe they could, you know, give their side of the story. Maybe add a little light to the situation.” [58:47].

Trujillo: “They can think about what they want to say, what message they want to get out. Right?”

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “And then I can do that.”

gHOST: “Yeah, yeah. I mean I’ll definitely do that. And then, umm, just kind of see where that goes from there. And if they’re willing to do it, then I’ll definitely get them to get in contact with you. And that’s, like I said. I mean it’s frustrating because the whole movement that this was created to be has just been completely ran through the middle, man, and so like I said, that’s why I’ve come out. A lot of people have asked me. And that’s one of the biggest questions that I’ve got, is people ask me why did you come out, why, why now.” [59:32]

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Trujillo: “You had to.”

gHOST: “Yeah. I didn’t really have a choice. I could no longer just sit back and watch these things, I mean, and it was kind of like, when it was just with puzzles, and fake puzzles, or this and that, it was kind of alright, we knew this was a foreseen calculation, we knew this was going to happen. Umm, but you know, it really can’t, you know, really co-opt the movement, but then when it came to the point where the media’s calling, you know, an intelligent organisation a LARP, and we’re working on software that the government can’t even…(laughs), like I say, alright guys, it just got to the point where it was like, alright…”

Trujillo: “That’s right.” [1:00:11].

gHOST: “So I mean those are the reasons why I came out. It’s not—It’s not for the fame, it’s not for the notoriety, or for any of that, it’s for that somebody outside, a party outside of what’s going on, had to come out and say something about this. And like I said, I talked to other people before I decided to do that. And it kind of became an agreement that if there was somebody to do it, it would probably be best for me to do it. I can protect myself pretty well, you know, online, and I have quite a vast knowledge of technology and INFOSEC and OPSEC and trying to protect myself, and so it was kind of like, I’ll be the one to do it, and once you do that there’s really no turning back. Because ever since then I come under attack from Thomas, I’ll come under attack from—umm, the thing with Thomas though is that he won’t interact with me directly.” [1:01:23].

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gHOST: “He, umm, (laughs) he always uses these sock accounts but it’s so crazy that they still don’t give me half the hard time that they do other people. Umm, like, they absolutely go after Lestat, and (unintelligible) I don’t know what’s up with Defango and Thomas, I don’t know if they are still working together, I don’t know, but I do know that Defango has a disdain for him, currently. But like I said, I’ve never met Thomas in person, and I’ve never even spoke to him, umm, online. I’ve never communicated with the man. So I don’t know him nowhere near on a personal level that Lestat and Defango do, you know, so for them to say those things and then to see his track record it just all lines up.” [1:02:19].

gHOST: “So it’s not like somebody can be like, “you guys are lying,” no, no, no, if you just go through his history and see all the complaints, he’s been in like 30 court cases, people tried to sue him for taking their money and not promoting them, and businesses and bands and then we get into music, and then you get into the puzzles.” [1:02:38].

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No fewer than fourteen (14) separate videos chronicling the malfeasance of Thomas Schoenberger are collected in this archive by Change Up on YouTube.

gHOST: “His history. Anything that he thinks that he can make money off of. And that’s really what it is because I truly believe that he got involved with it originally maybe just to bring more recognition to himself. Maybe to promote his own music. I mean that’s—I really tried to figure out why would he try to co-opt this and try to take it for himself? What does he really have to gain? Because if somebody is doing something for gain, on average it’s monetary gain. So I’m like, he’s doing this for financial reasons. So then I started trying to look at why, you know, why would he be doing it and how would he gain financially and then it started to add up.” [1:03:21].

gHOST: “And I’m like, for the first couple of years, he was just watching. And then when he seen that it became literally a media hysteria (sic), like it became an overnight sensation, to where, you know, businesses, CNN and all these people are saying, you know this is the world (unintelligible) problem you know, who are, he realized oh, man, there might be some money involved in this.” [1:03:44].

gHOST: “And I truly believe—”

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Trujillo: “—I can tear him down. I’ve got the internal documents, I’ve got his emails. Defango told you, he gave me all of it. He did.”

gHOST: “That’s good. I’m glad he shared that with you.”

Trujillo: “Well. He trusted me that much. Because you know he wants to get it off his chest.” [1:04:04].

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gHOST: “Oh, yeah. He’s been dealing with this for a couple of years. And Thomas used him. And like if you go back and you watch the videos, like Thomas was using him to, for his puzzling and for his memes. Like if you look at Defango out in the desert trying to find this Spear of Destiny, you see how disheveled and how rough and how lost he looked. Like he, you could tell that he was just…(laughing).” [1:04:28].

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Trujillo: “This is the thing. Defango was betrayed.”

gHOST: “Yeah. Definitely.”

Trujillo: “But the problem was, his reaction was to betray in turn.”

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “So betrayal is the theme, the constant theme in Manuel Chavez, his psychological makeup. Ok. Now I’m going to try to help him. He doesn’t, he doesn’t—he’s very distrustful, right, and he took a chance with me and it was a good chance, because I will not fuck him over. Right. I’m going to make him come out looking pretty good. But I’m doing it not because I’m doing him favors, I’m doing it because his actual role justifies it.” [1:05:14].

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gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “It’s the truth. I’m going to show the truth, through the documentation, he’s going to come out of this looking great. Alright. But if you talk with him, tell him that. Tell him that he doesn’t need to be upset because I published Lestat’s first. That’s infantile, man. That’s childish.” [1:05:34].

gHOST: “It really is. Like he, I even read where you said that you published Lestat’s first, like you wrote it on the website. Because it was like 40,000 words.”

Trujillo: “It is.” (My interview and commentary with Manuel Chavez III is actually more than 40,000 words long at this point, but I am dismantling it into smaller segments to make it easier to digest. What will actually be a series of interviews with Defango will be rich in the internal documentation of Cicada 3301 during its Middle Period).

gHOST: “So it’s not … you clearly articulated why you did what you did, so for him—”

Trujillo: “—I’m not choosing sides.”

gHOST: “Yeah, yeah. For him to get…that’s kind of umm…he should look at it like, he should actually look at it with appreciation because he’s trying to make sure that, when he posts this, that it’s on. That it’s on. You know. So he should be looking at it like that. Not the other way.” [1:06:17].

Trujillo: “Well, you know, and like I say, it’s a process, it’s an interactive process, so I’ll be sending pieces of it to him, you know, we’ll go step by step, and I’ll say how does this look, right? Because there’s going to be errors, and there’s going to be corrections that need to be made. And it’s tied in to other mysteries, like for example, “who is Microchip?” [1:06:37].

Q James Brower Tweet Signed In As Microchip 1 Aug 2017

gHOST: “Alright.”

Trujillo: “Like who is Microchip? Things like that. Or qntmpkts. Do you know who qntmpkts is?” The pseudonymous character using the alias qntmpkts blocked me on Twitter after I asked Thomas Schoenberger for an interview on April 16, 2019. There was no interaction of any kind between myself and qntmpkts. And he was not the only person interacting with Schoneberger who blocked me: so did former Cicada insider DJ Genki. We see, as a consequence, whom is communicating with whom, and the nature of those communications.

Q qntmpkts blocks me on Twitter--TS?

gHOST: “No. I uh…that sounds really familiar. But…”

Trujillo: “Do you know who Microchip is?”

gHOST: “Yeah, I know who Microchip is.”

Trujillo: “Can you tell me?”

gHOST: “Uh, not like on a personal level, but I do know who Microchip is. Like I’ve had interactions with him…”

Trujillo: “Can you tell me for non-publication? So I know whether I’m going down the right path or not?” [1:07:17].

gHOST: “Um, alright. So…”

Trujillo: “If you can’t, that’s cool.”

gHOST: “Well, see, can I validate his authenticity? No. If that’s what you’re trying to get at. Have I heard their name within the circles, yes.”

Trujillo: “We’re dealing with composite identities, these are not just singular people, these are multiple people that are using the identities.”

gHOST: “I will say this. I don’t remember that name popping up on the IRC channels, I’ll just put it like that.”

Trujillo: “They’re not. These are political operators. They’re into politics, they’re into QAnon, they’re not involved in IRC, they’re not involved in cypherpunk, they don’t know anything about cypherpunks.”

gHOST: “Ok. Ok.” [1:08:09].

Trujillo: “They don’t know about Cicada.”

gHOST: “Alright. I got you.”

Trujillo: “And that’s fine, that’s that part of the story, but what I’m basically trying to do is not waste so much time, because honestly bro, I’m 58 years old, alright, and a fortuneteller told me I’m going to die when I’m 62: I don’t have that many years  left.”

gHOST: “Oh, man. (Laughs). [1:08:38]. I got you.”

Trujillo: “I’m trying to get this shit done, right.”

gHOST: “Yeah, yeah. So you’re not chasing just random leads, I got you. What I can promise you man is that I don’t know the person, I don’t know Microchip personally, have I heard their name before inside of circles? Yes. Are they, were they ever on the IRC channel? No. Do I think that they are connected to Cicada? No. But have I heard their name? Yes. But I do not know them on a personal level.” [1:09:11].

Trujillo: “How about James Brower?”

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gHOST: “James Brower? Yes I’ve heard his name.”

Trujillo: “But again he’s a political operator, he’s not involved with Cicada.”

gHOST: “Most of these names, I’ve heard them tied in connection to Thomas…I haven’t really heard them tied in anywhere else.”

Trujillo: “That’s right, that’s right.”

gHOST: “That I do remember. These circles I heard, those names they were kind of “Thomas.” {1:09:44].

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Trujillo: “Well, you know, this whole IRC thing in a way, I’m going to mention it but I don’t want to talk about it too much, because I don’t want the wrong people finding it, because the right people are already there, the right people already know how to find it—”

gHOST: “—how to get there, yeah.”

Trujillo: “—Yeah, they know already, alright. So I’m going to be very cautious and careful when I talk about the IRCs. But you know I’ve run into this dilemma with the brotherBoxes, with the Lone Cicadas, the Frank Bacons, the Nox Populi, the Marcus Wanners, I mean do I even bother trying to approach these guys? Because I think that they’ve got their own agenda man, they’ve got their own plan, and it’s in play, they’re pursuing it, I mean you saw that little piece that just came out, I liked it. I thought it was well done.” [1:10:42].

gHOST: “I think they did, yeah, I agree with that. I think that they did a very good job. They didn’t chase all these other things, they actually documented what they could know for a fact, and that’s how a documentary should be done. And the fact that they actually spent the money to get an investigative journalist and actually hired professional people to look into this, and it’s so fun because, everything they looked into ties back to a few people that’ve gone on record, like myself, before these documentaries ever were released, saying the same thing. So when you (unintelligible) people can tie it back to a group, that are saying the same thing before somebody went and paid a big company to go and investigate, then you start to see where things start to line up, and you can actually get some validity to these statements.” [1:11:31].

Trujillo: “And that’s where I want to go. Because you are the only person that I know of, who can go all the way back to 2011. You’re the only guy. You’re the only guy who can say that Ian was involved, Ian was probably The Architect. You’re the only guy who can say that. No one else can say that.”

gHOST: “Yeah, that’s what me and Lestat talked about. Lestat and myself spoke on the same thing, he said the same thing, you’re the only one that can really—and that’s what he said, that’s why he said if you can interview with me, we can kind of bring some more—because with him, he felt like he was backed into a corner with Thomas and he had nobody that he could really call his own that could jump in and say hey, listen like, there is a clear separation.” [1:12:16].

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gHOST: “So when he, when I was able to prove to him my identity, and I logged into a few, a couple of websites that were owned by gHOST that were public record and had been there for years, that hadn’t been logged into for years, then I log into them in realtime for him, you know, so once you are able to actually figure out who I was, and that I really am who I am, that’s why he was immediately, why we really need you to jump into this and help us get some clarification for what’s going on. So what I can do for you, I’ll reach out to some of my resources that I have, and bring up to them, you know, and tell them that I met a very good—I’m going to call you a journalist because that’s what I look at you as—” [1:13:03].

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Screen capture from gHOST3301’s How Will You Tell the World? ARG puzzle.

Trujillo: “—As a writer—”

gHOST: “—A writer, ok, I’ll tell them that I met a—”

Trujillo: “You know what? Honestly (unintelligible) in my youth when was young I was a soldier, I was a Green Beret—”

gHOST: “—oh, that’s awesome—”

Trujillo: “And I was trained, I’m a graduate of intelligence courses, ok, so I’m bringing a certain discipline to this that no one else can do. But I’m a political scientist and I’m an historian, and that’s all. That’s all that I am. I’m not a partisan, I’m not picking sides, the only agenda that I’m pursuing is history, alright. And guys like you and me, we can come together, and we can protect–we can work with Lestat, alright, and we need to find these other people who can come in and say look: drive the ground rules. If you don’t want to be identified, that’s cool. I know how to keep a secret, believe me. That’s part of being what I was.” [1:14:04].

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “But I also think, as a cypherpunk, and man, I go back, all the way back with this shit. I was in this a long time ago. Alright. I’m 58 years old. I was on the internet in 1992. You know. So, I’m not saying this because you need to worship me. I’m just saying that I’ve got history with this shit. And this is stuff that I care about deeply. I care about this shit.” [1:14:34].

Cicada Cypherpunk Nox Populi May 20 2018

LEMMiNO, “Cicada 3301: An Internet Mystery,” YouTube, May 19, 2018.

gHOST: “I can see and I can tell. That’s why before I reached out to you I went and I looked at your website and I looked at the things that you wrote and your interaction between you and Lestat, before I reached out to you, you know what I’m saying, because you reached out to me and then I waited a little bit to contact you back, and that’s why I kind of did a little of my own homework and I definitely agree with you, I feel a hundred percent happy, and secure in doing an interview with you now and in the future. And working to try to bring—” [1:15:12].

gHOST: “Oh, yeah. You’re fine. You’re fine. Whatever we talk about is absolutely fine.”

Trujillo: “You will have a copy, you’ll have a copy of the audio, right, and I’ll keep the video because all it shows is–but when we do a video with you, I’ll give it to you. But the thing is, it is not my intention to publish a video interview. It is my intention to do the audio only and then with a transcript. Because what that does gHOST, is it brings the focus around to the data, instead of people being lazy and sitting back watching a video, and getting information that way, they have to interact with data, with text. They have to work, to read it. Alright. And if they want to listen to it, they can. But the commentary, right, the actual transcription, is what the historical artifact is. So I’m trying to make people read. The deal with YouTubers is these people don’t read.” [1:16:13].

gHOST: “Yeah, they don’t.”

Trujillo: “That’s not what they do. Alright. So, you know, I’ll meet them halfway. I’ll give them the audio, but for those people who do read, for people who are journalists, there’s the data. There’s the transcript, right. So that’s why I do it that way, I make a deliberate choice to do it like that. So even when we do do a video, I’ll keep it. And I may publish it at some point but believe me you’ll know about it, I’ll ask you, what do you think about this, and I’ll show it to you beforehand, you know—” [1:16:48].

gHOST: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “—Anything that you are a party to, you will have access to it, you may say, hey, I don’t like the way that looks, and I’ll say ok, let’s fix it. Because I’m not a journalist.”

gHOST: “I gotcha. I gotcha. I got a lot of respect for you. I can definitely tell you’re passionate, and I can tell you’re being a hundred percent with me and if I didn’t know these things, if I had any doubt then I never would have reached out to you, so yeah. No worries.” [1:17:17].

Trujillo: “It’s a risk for you. And I get that. It is. It’s a risk. And the only way that I can show you that your risk is a good risk is by how I conduct myself.”

gHOST: “Yes, sir.”

Trujillo: “So this is our first step, our first conversation—”

gHOST: “—Yeah, because in the future, yeah, definitely, because in the future I plan doing a live video with you. But when I decide to do that, I’m going to try to, I’m going to modify my environment around me, just to throw that out. You know, just for OPSEC reasons.”

Trujillo: “I get it.”

gHOST: “But definitely, like my own thing was I really wanted to reach out to you and do an initial talk with you so where we could meet each other and you could kind of just ask me some questions and we could kind of get a ground work going. To where you could get some questions answered, I could kind of see, you know, how the interview goes, so we get to know one another and then from here we can continue this on, because I honestly see a good working friendship right here and a way to definitely combat back against Thomas and his disinformation.” [1:18:29].

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Thomas Schoenberger.

Trujillo: “We’re going to finish him. We’ll finish him. And we’ll do it the right way. We’ll do it with truth. He’s vulnerable. That’s the vulnerability of all liars. They can’t withstand truth. Or fact. So we’ve already got him. I just need to do some work. And I will. I will do it. But listen, I thank you, very much, for taking the risk to talk with me. I’m grateful to you. I understand that you’re—you have every right to be cautious. Because you are correct. You are a walking munition. You are. And governments are going to be very interested in you. So, let’s just work together you and I, and let’s just make sure that I protect you the way that you need to be protected. And then I showcase what you need to have showcased, and that we establish an historical artifact here. That can really withstand scrutiny, and that people can trust.” [1:19:38].

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Screen capture from

gHOST: “Yes.”

Trujillo: “So they can know, this is the real deal, this is the real deal. This is the real Cicada. And then they’ll know it. They’ll know it.”

gHOST: “I couldn’t have said it better myself. I agree a hundred percent with what you just said.”

Q Schoenberger Banned Cicada Greatest Show on Earth Nov 16, 2018 Lestat YT

Lestat (Arturo Tafoyovsky), “The Greatest Show on Earth, pt. 1,” YouTube, November 16, 2018.


Trujillo: “It’s just so good to find an ally.”

gHOST: “Oh, definitely. Definitely. Because like I said it’s a very small group that are trying to combat all this disinformation because, there really has not been a lot of things that have been able to, you know, affect people the way that this puzzle has. This puzzle has grabbed people and —” [1:20:16].


Q lest4t to TS Email Nov 3 2018

gHOST: “—that’s what I’m saying. There’s never really been such a viral media, uh, like, like this and so for us to try, for us to be able to rein it back in and get it back on the correct path, I honestly believe that we couldn’t do any better. And that’s really—” [1:20:37].

Trujillo: “—All we really need to do is focus on the cypherpunk ideal. That’s it. And if we get that one message out, that one message, that information needs to be free, that alone, that is an utterly powerful statement.” [1:20:52].

Cicada TS SONY Kathy March 8 2018

gHOST: “Oh, yeah. Definitely. That’s really what it’s about. Knowledge is power. And not only is it power, it’s empowerment. And so yeah, definitely, and that’s always been our biggest focus. And you know, because governments and nationstates, they want to control information so they can control the narrative. And if you control the narrative, you can control the population and the consciousness of that population. And that’s been our biggest thing because you know… humanity has reached that point where we got to change as a whole.” [1:21:30].

“…because governments and nationstates, they want to control information so they can control the narrative. And if you control the narrative, you can control the population and the consciousness of that population.”

Trujillo: “You know, I’m thinking here. If you can, spend some time thinking about how we can package and present clues to solvers of Liber Primus to take the next step. Because they are stuck. They are just stuck.”

gHOST: “I know. When I watched that last episode and they were at DEFCON just going around asking everybody—”

Trujillo: “—Random people with a stack of papers in their hands. Come on, man. We got to be better than that.” [1:22:00].

Cicada Lestat Liber Primus Hints 3 Dots June 27 2019

gHOST: “That’s why I brought up that because, there definitely will be a reemergence. And when it does happen, the puzzle that’s released, that’s why I said, I really would like for it to touch back to base on Liber Primus, and give, not give, you know, not straight up hints but, at least reincorporate the steps needed to do the puzzle, so that people that had missed it, can maybe see it this time, in a different factor.” [1:22:37].

gHOST: “Maybe they didn’t see it that way before, so we can present the same thing, but in a different way, that they actually get it this time.”

Trujillo: “Well, just get them solving again. And working together. Because what people describe to me is an artifact that requires crowdsourcing, it must be a group effort.”

gHOST: “It has to be because like I said, it was created—many people came together to create the puzzles of Liber Primus, so it’s going to be impossible for one person to break it, unless they know every single step that was involved… and the only people that know that are the individuals that helped create it. And they themselves don’t know the whole steps because they were just a small part in the putting it together.” [1:23:24].

gHOST: “So, and like I said, that’s the biggest thing is that, uh, people have been stuck with that for so many years.”

Trujillo: “And if you can think of a way, you know, for us to package, something that can help nudge that community and get them back solving… let’s do that. Let’s figure out a way to do that.”

gHOST: “Definitely.”

Trujillo: “We’re smart guys. We can come up with something. Right?”

gHOST: “Definitely. Definitely. I’ll sit back and start brainstorming and start working on some ideas.”

Trujillo: “Yeah. Make it a background process. And the other thing, is that I personally want to ensure that the second half of The Message gets a wider publication than it’s seen. And that it is seen and heard and heeded. So if you can help me with a clear text of that…” [1:24:17].

gHOST: “Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. What I can do is I can go back through, and because I know, off the top of my head, I can’t remember exactly, but listening to it, I know exactly what’s said. I can just go and like get a notepad, and just make a text of something real quick…”

Trujillo: “Thank you, thank you.”

gHOST: “I’ll send it to you, to your email.”

Trujillo: “Thank you. Listen. We’ve been talking now for about an hour and 28 minutes so I’m going to let you go. I don’t want to wear you out.”

gHOST: “No worries.”

Trujillo: “You and I, we’ve established rapport, right.”

gHOST: “Yes, sir.”

Trujillo: “You got a feel for who I am and where I’m coming from, and I know where you’re coming from, so let’s give this some thought and let’s meet again, and let’s talk again, and let’s figure out in the future how we can help and we can make sure that the PGP Key is protected, right, and we’ll drive a stake through his heart, and we’ll finish him, and we’ll get this thing going back again the way that it is needs to be going, we’ll get people solving again, alright.” [1:25:23].

Cicada TS Threatens Thomas w PGP Message Richard & Lestat

gHOST: “Yes, sir.”

Trujillo: “And we’ll get the focus back on the ideal that information needs to be free. And that’s it.”

gHOST: “Yes, sir. I couldn’t have said it better myself.”

Trujillo: “Thank you. Thank you so much. I got to tell you I’m just so delighted to make your acquaintance, thank you so much. Really.”

gHOST: “No, I thank you, Stephen, I really do. And I thank you for the opportunity to try to bring more clarification to this whole situation.”

Cicada TS Insurgent Media Michael Levine Defango Jan 12 2018

Trujillo: “And it’s going to be a group effort. I can’t do it by myself.”

gHOST: “Yeah, I understand. I can’t even do it by myself and it’s gotten bigger than an individual now, so…”

Trujillo: “You know I was looking at something and someone was saying I bit off too much. How do I handle this gigantic project. And the answer is you just take the next step.”

gHOST: “Yeah. Yeah.”

Trujillo: “That’s all you do.”

gHOST: “Yeah, definitely. Sometimes that’s all that’s needed. Once you get momentum going, things tend to fall into place.” [1:26:23].

Cicada TS Stolen Valor Pathetic Piece of Shit

A screen capture from one of Thomas Schoenberger’s innumerable sock accounts. There is no faster way to get on my bad side than to engage in stolen valor. As a decorated combat veteran I do not tolerate it. My dead and maimed brothers demand a reckoning.

Trujillo: “Well, you know I’m a product of a pipeline, a training pipeline, where most people do not succeed. And the way that I triumphed over those challenges is I simply didn’t quit. That’s it. Bottom line. There was no way to make me quit. And my attitude was well, they can kill me. They can’t kill you deliberately but they can do it by accident, but if they don’t kill me, then I’m going to be one of the few guys left standing. So I’m not bragging to you, I’m just telling you that this is how I came through these challenges in these training pipelines. And I’m just going to bring the same discipline to this. I’m going to outlast, and I’m going to endure, and I’m going to get this done. I’ve only got a few more years, like I said a fortuneteller told me I’m a dead man at age 62. I’m 58 right now, so. I know what I got to do.” [1:27:20].

gHOST: “Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. I’m impressed—”

Trujillo: “—don’t be.”

gHOST: “—Yeah I’m impressed that I couldn’t have asked, honestly, man, this has been a joyous conversation for me to have with you. And I definitely see a friendship developing here. And I definitely can see with all of us working together helping to accomplish those goals, and tasks that we talked about.” [1:27:51].

Trujillo: “With you and Lestat onboard, we can take care and pull this off. We can do it. It doesn’t matter what Thomas Schoenberger brings to it. We’ve already got him beat.” [1:28:00].

Cicada Lestat TS Levine Lech Insurgent Media SONY TS Criminal Record

gHOST: “Exactly. Exactly.”

Trujillo: “Alright. I’m going to let you go.”

gHOST: “Yes, sir. No worries! Stephen, I really appreciate it, sir, thank you and what I’ll do is I’ll start working on those things, you give me about a day or two and I’ll contact, I’ll get back in contact with you and we’ll try to set up another time here to get back on this again.”

Trujillo: “Thank you very much gHOST, I appreciate it.”

gHOST: “No worries, Stephen You have a blessed safe night, and I’ll talk to you soon, sir. Thank you.”

Trujillo: “Have a good Sunday! Ok!. Bye bye.”

gHOST: “Yes, sir. Thank you.”

===End Transcript, End Interview===


Some may complain about the length of this interview: indeed, it is longer than I intended. But these things take as long as they take. Others may cringe from the wall of text that confronts them here, but one of my pet peeves is the laziness of those who prefer to passively absorb information through videos rather than doing the hard work of reading.

This is why I provide only the audio of these interviews. I may at some future point post the video with additional analysis, but for now, I consider the video an impediment. I include the audio file as a SoundCloud download in the interest of authenticity. Anyone can review the audio and compare it to my transcript. Best of all: text is searchable, and unlike video, it is indexed on the net.

You will find no filler here. This is raw, usable information, for students of Cicada 3301, for social scientists researching this phenomenon of the internet age, for historians to come. I comment on these interviews and I place supporting information adjacent to where it is needed. Anyone can dispute my commentary or the information that I provide, but the data itself stands on its own merits.

I consider myself fortunate to speak with the Cicada insider gHOST3301, and we should all thank him for coming forward to shed light on the “most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age,” as Sam Scott so memorably put it in his seminal 2013 article. (Sam Scott, “Cicada 3301: The most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age,” Metro, December 16, 2013).

This is the first interview ever conducted by any social scientist with an inner circle member of Cicada’s Early Period (2011-4). More interviews with other Cicada insiders are forthcoming. This is just the second interview in the Cicada Files. The first was with Arturo Tafoyovsky (Lestat). Multiple interviews with Manuel Chavez III will be published in coming weeks.

In this interview, gHOST3301 and I address Thomas Schoenberger’s culpability in the collapse of Cicada 3301 on May 7, 2018, and his infiltration of the order between 2015-6. We recount the efforts of Schoenberger and his colleagues, Michael Levine and Richard Lech, to monetize the order, excluding the actual puzzle creators from their schemes. More detail, more information, much of it in the form of Cicada’s internal documentation, is forthcoming.

For the corporate lawyers reviewing this interview, consider the tenuous ownership position of the profiteering triumvirate. They may hold a trademark, but they can demonstrate no ownership of the intellectual property of the order. The internal documentation of Cicada 3301 itself demonstrates that Richard Lech played no discernible role in puzzlemaking, Michael Levine’s involvement appears titular and marginal, and Schoenberger’s participation was collaborative.

The stockholders of Primus Holdings, LLC may own shares in a Limited Liability Corporation, but if that firm fails to include the actual creators of Cicada’s artistic projects, what does it actually own? I am not a lawyer, I am merely an informed bystander, but I suspect that sharks will soon begin circling on behalf of the artists who created its enigmatic puzzles.

Finally, the protagonists know precisely where the PGP key is held. Without the authenticity of the PGP key, no solvers will engage with ersatz puzzles. I am advised that further attempts to coerce the holder of the key will provoke the whirlwind.

gHOST and I also discuss the origin story of Cicada 3301, and the role of Debian Linux creator Ian Murdock (The Architect). We explain the puzzle made by gHOST at the behest of Murdock known as The Message, and illustrate it for a later generation of Cicada aficionados.

Finally, gHOST and I discuss the primacy of certain IRC channels in germinating a clandestine cypherpunk cabal which remains covert. Even Cicada 3301 needs a public relations strategy. We discuss additional clues for solvers of Liber Primus, and the tragic deaths of Samuel Fullerton and Sheriff’s Sergeant Michael Stephen.

With this series of interviews and the work that they inform, I analyze the organization, function and goals of Cicada 3301.

I hope that you enjoy my efforts. Corrections and comments are welcome. More, much more, is coming. Stay tuned.

September 2, 2019.

Estéban Trujillo de Gutiérrez



Cicada Schoenberger & Levine nd USE!

Thomas Schoenberger and Michael Levine, formerly “head composers” of Cicada 3301 during its Middle Period. Co-conspirators in a profiteering triumvirate seeking to monetize a cyperpunk order for sale to Hollywood.

Cicada Files: Arturo Tafoyovsky Interviewed

Cicada 3301 Files: Arturo “Tafoyovsky” (Lestat), Interview May 24, 2019: Transcript and Commentary Revised August 15, updated August 17-8, 2019.

(Archived at @Samizdat on LBRY: ).

Cicada Janon Q=TS=a858 June 10 2019

Videographer Arturo “Tafoyovsky” (a pseudonym) (aka Lestat) was an inner circle member of Cicada 3301 (2016-8), their chief of graphics, who defined the visuals of Cicada’s perplexing puzzles during its Middle Period.

Cicada’s Early Period begins with its inception in obscurity circa 2011 and extends to the emergence of Thomas Schoenberger, one of two “head composers” in the order between 2014-5.

Cicada’s Middle Period can also be called the Schoenberger era, as it began with Thomas Schoenberger’s “hijacking” of the order in 2014-5 and ended when Manuel Chavez III (Defango) exposed the secrets of Cicada on May 7, 2018. Cicada as an organization imploded on Schoenberger’s watch: the organization died due to his greed and his mismanagement of Chavez.

The perfidy of Chavez, who infamously blew Cicada’s legendary cover for all time, will be recounted in coming installments in his own words.

The aftermath of Cicada’s collapse is one of schism, with most inner circle adepts now pursuing independent projects. At the time that I publish this interview, some 9-10 former members are contemplating a resurrection. My interviews suggest that Cicada’s Later Period may be gestating. A new puzzle may be released on January 5, 2020.

I am engaged in the massive project of analyzing QAnon as a viral phenomenon, as an ideology and a psyop. Cicada 3301 preceded QAnon. Some of the personalities that initated QAnon were members of Cicada 3301. Understanding their synergy is crucial to understanding both organizations.

This interview is my second in 2019, and the first in a series addressing Cicada 3301. My first interview of the year was with Mr. Paul Furber, the original Q evangelist. That interview, the first in the Q Files, was published on this site on May 18, 2019.

This interview of 11,243 words with Mr. Tafoyovsky was conducted on May 24, 2019. I released the draft interview transcript and its accompanying commentary to him on August 11, 2019, and completed my initial revisions on August 13, 2019. After some minor corrections, he approved release of the final version on August 14, 2019.

As Manuel Chavez III reviewed this interview on his YouTube channel later that same day, he identified errors. These are now corrected. Aside from calling me a “fool” and a “douchebag,” Mr. Chavez’s corrections are appreciated. I also consider the critiques of Ms. Denise Matteau, who uploaded her reviews to YouTube on August 16-8. I thank Ms. Matteau for her kind revisions.

Indeed, I interviewed Manuel Chavez III two days before this interview on May 22: that interview and its accompanying commentary are now gargantuan, comprising nearly 40,000 words and rising. It primarily addresses QAnon, though a central section dissects Cicada 3301 in detail. This Cicada section will probably be extracted and combined with other materials to be published separately.

I do my transcriptions the old fashioned way, by hand and by ear, eschewing automation. While this takes much time, it improves accuracy and makes me intimate with the data. I initially publish only transcribed audio tracks with commentary. I reserve my videos for separate analysis on a later date.

I decided to skip ahead and to break out this interview with Mr. Tafoyovsky before my May 22 interview with Manuel Chavez III as it is shorter, and I rely upon it and other interviews with Tafoyovsky in my overarching project. I also interviewed Mr. Tafoyovsky on April 10, April 14, on multiple days in June between the 9th and the 27th, on July 4, and on August 10 and August 16, 2019. Most of these interviews were on background, they were not recorded, so only gisting transcripts of them may eventually be published.

As will be seen, Mr. Tafoyovsky is not the only Cicada member that I interviewed. Further interviews with other inner circle members are ongoing. The May 22 interview with Manuel Chavez III will be the heart of a book-length Q project. If my other Cicada interviews go well, a separate book-length treatment of Cicada 3301 may be feasible.

This much is indisputable: when I am done, we will understand Cicada 3301 better than ever before. My intention is to rend the veil of the “most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age,” preserving its constituent elements for history. As a political scientist my focus is organizational: I dissect how the digital order functioned, how it was comprised, what its goals were, and how it pursued them.

Accordingly, all Cicada artifacts acquired in my research are archived on the imperishable blockchain of my LBRY channel @Samizdat. With this interview of Cicada’s videographer during its Middle Period between 2016-8, we begin.

(Sam Scott, “Cicada 3301: The most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age,” Metro, December 16, 2013; Defango TV (Manuel Chavez III, aka Defango), “News #hongkongprotest #lightwave – Defango TV 8-13-2019,” YouTube, August 13, 2019, timestamp: 1:26:00).

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Begin Transcript

Begin Recording: 01:35

Trujillo: “How you doing.”

Tafoyovsky: “Fine. A little overhyped, but I am doing ok. We’re trying to keep it–”

Trujillo: “You are a little what?”

Tafoyovsky: “A little hyped. Like, excited. It… we finally found out who Q [02:03] is… a part of Q, you could call it that way. We found evidence of Thomas being connected…”

Trujillo: “–I am sorry–you say you found evidence that Thomas is what?” [02:26] I cannot believe my ears.

Tafoyovsky: “Is Q. Like he started it… (crosstalk)… Excuse me?”

Cicada Janon TS = a858 Tweet no date

Trujillo: “So you found evidence that Thomas is Q?” I say it again, as I am in disbelief. “So you found evidence that Thomas is Q?” My face reflects astonishment.

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. You know the Bakers, the ones that hold the tripcode and stuff? We always knew who those [03:09] people were.”

Tafoyovsky continues: “Remember when Jerome Corsi was decrypting QAnon?”

Trujillo: “Yes.” Indeed I remember. Jerome Corsi is getting an entire chapter in my book, in fact. I am well aware of Jerome Corsi.

Tafoyovsky: “Well, Jerome Corsi offered their patrons and his donators (meaning people who donated to him, remember that English is not Arturo Tafoyovsky’s first language), he forwarded emails, he attached people on emails, that he would communicate with QAnon.”

Tafoyovsky continues: “Those emails got leaked. You can find it on Defango A858.”

I am silent, so Tafoyovsky continues: “There is a video, A858, on Defango, Corsi was communicating with an email with A858, a long number, an AOL email… he had the name of Jack, and he referred to himself as Q. You can see the video. I also put some evidence out on Twitter.” [04:17].

(Defango TV (Manuel Chavez III), “Jerome Corsi and Qanon, Army Jack and A858 Coders or Shills compromised?,” YouTube, April 1 (April Fool’s Day), 2018. Also see: Defango, “Jerome Corsi and Qanon, Army Jack and A858 Coders or Shills compromised?” SteemIt, April 1, 2018? nd).

Defango (Manuel Chavez III): [00:16]. “It has come to my attention that Jerome Corsi has been talking to QAnon. Our friend Denise (Matteau) sent over some information about this. If you look at the email of who he says Q is, it has a name that matches the name of the reddit mystery on Google. It pulls you up to the A858 account, but it is weird that Corsi is getting an email from somebody claiming to be Q from an AOL account.”

Chavez points at Corsi’s website. He says that Corsi seems to be very Zionistic, super-pro Trump. “I’ve had my questions about him for awhile, so I hung back and let him do his big decodings and it’s really kind of  funny, he’s made a name for himself. I wanted to remind you guys that this… is proof that QAnon is someone close to President Donald Trump.”

Tracy Beanz (Tracy Diaz) talks. “The pen is actually on Obama’s old desk.”

Corsi: “Yes, the Laurel Desk, Obama used it at Camp David, and Trump also uses it. And the pen is a Montblanc ink pen that Trump has used for a long time. In post 8159 QAnon said, “now look familiar? Note the desk.”

Q Drop 8159 The Storm 8chan Jan 6 2018, p. 228 X.VI, May 2 2019

Q Drop 8159 The Storm board on 8chan, January 6, 2018, in QAnon: The Storm X.VII (Aggregated Q Drops), July 27, 2019, p. 228.

Corsi: “That is Camp David over the weekend. Had to be taken by somebody who is there. That pretty much authenticates that QAnon is close to Trump, and these important White House meetings.”

Diaz: “Yes. it was awesome to get that validation among so many others.”

Defango plays a Right Wing Watch video. “Don’t you guys remember that post?” He asks us. “Post 815… right? We got to go 100 posts down. Ok. Looking for the picture of the pen… got to go farther back. 615 maybe? Got to be in January. Ah. 481. Here’s the pen. Does this look familiar? Note the desk. January 6th. And we know that that’s a desk and a Montblanc pen. Hmmm.”

Just, you know, checking, Chavez OutGuesses the photo. He says, “It is not something that you could not find. So I went back and saw the videos that he’s doing on it, it’s his bread and butter, I mean, irrefutable proof that QAnon’s legitimate.”

Chavez: “But now I got these emails from Corsi. Do not get me started on somebody using an AOL address.”

Then Chavez starts reading the “Jack with a K” emails to “Carol in Cali.”

You cannot make things like this up. This whole thing reeks of yet another Thomas Schoenberger scam, one more among a multitude that are emerging as I delve the intertwined mysteries of QAnon and Cicada 3301.

As Arturo Tafoyovsky (Lestat) observes, Schoenberger loves reeling in these elderly matrons, kindly ladies living on a pension. A review of Thomas Schoenberger’s criminal history confirms that this is a discernible behavior pattern.

Q Schoenberger Diane Nordstrom Rapsheet @straymagnet

(Among many other offenses, Schoenberger was arrested for Felony Stalking (CA Offense Code 646.9APC) by Arresting Agency RMND on January 30, 2015, Napa County Municipal Court, CA). I address Schoenberger’s extensive criminal record elsewhere.

Chavez keeps on reading these emails.

Chavez: “Uh, huh. “No coms outside the thing,” isn’t that right, Corsi? What is going on with these weirdos. Does Jerome Corsi know who the new QAnon is? Or are they just doing something to kind of change everything up? It seems like somebody’s trying really hard. I mean, I am more than open to speaking with Jerome Corsi on the situation. Anyway, let me know what you guys think.”

Q Drop Post 8159, “Look familiar? Note the desk. It’s the weekend. God bless, Q.”

Corsi: “That picture had to be taken by somebody who is there. That pretty much authenticates that QAnon is pretty close to President Trump.”

This Q drop actually authenticates nothing, but Corsi tells his audience that it does, and so he is believed. There is a significant demographic of American citizens who so desperately want QAnon to be legitimate that they believe Q Proofs: our distrust of the fake news media leads us to follow the cryptic utterings of an anonymous character, a modern-era Delphic Oracle.

Google: “Jack the A858 reddit mystery.” (A google search brings up this reddit link as the top hit):

The root subreddit is r/Solving_A858:

There was also a Wiki dedicated to solving the conundrum: ).

The email address is :

You can Google that and see what comes up.

From Chavez’s SteemIt: “It seems very strange to me that Qanon would be talking to Corsi over email via AOL.”

Actually, it makes perfect sense, when you consider that Corsi is old, and Thomas Schoenberger’s technical expertise is spotty. And yet—Schoenberger lurked on Cicada-solving IRC channels. I will not tumble down that rabbit hole at this point, to keep this interview and commentary on track. I address Schoenberger’s footprints on particular IRC channels elsewhere.

Chavez: “That just is not something someone concerned with security would do. What sense is there in using that to communicate and what about the connect to that reddit puzzle. (sic). nothing is random as tengri 137 says so we only can look at the effects that it seems that somebody is trying REALLY hard to make themselves legitimate (misspelled) without actually joining anything to speak with me on the subject. Doesn’t that strike you has old (sic)?”

Chavez includes a mass of links:


A858 Reddit Puzzle


Resuming our interview with Arturo Tafoyovsky:

Trujillo: “I looked at it, it did not make sense to me.” [01:01]

Tafoyovsky: “I recently baited Thomas and he sent me an email mocking me, saying “bye bye,” that he got me kicked out of Twitter, or that I gave up? That was the first thing that tied up so many things.”

Here is the email that Thomas Schoenberger sent to Arturo Tafoyovsky:

Cicada Lestat A858 Email to Arturo Blows His Qover May 20 2019

As usual (I am reviewing many emails by Schoenberger lately), the email is cryptic and dismissive. But as I write this commentary on August 11, 2019, I cannot help noticing that it can be interpreted as a prediction—a prediction that presaged the de-platforming of 8chan ∞.

Schoenberger, who claims to be the reincarnation of Saint Germain, flogs a reputation for himself as a fortuneteller, a reputation that he mostly promotes himself using multiple sock accounts.

And yet… Schoenberger used the word “Judas” in threatening emails to Manuel Chavez III, and those of us keeping our fingers on the pulse of the so-called YouTube Truther Community know that Isaac Kappy called himself a Judas in his pre-suicide farewell.

Tafoyovsky continues:

“That was the first thing that just tied up so many things. And I thought, this is the guy. That Jerome Corsi was communicating and giving out information. I know that Thomas never did post. But remember the things that he sells is his prophecies. He throws an arrow and where it hits is where he draws the bullseye. That is kind of how he makes his prophecies work. [05:32] You can see repeated when he made his fake Cicada on QAnon and on FBI Anon, also the patterns of FBI Anon, how it needed this channel Victuras Libertas.”

“Anyway, recently, a friend reported there is an associate who helps Thomas, her name is Donna Emerald, she had a blog, and on her blog, she had posted that Jack was being contacted by someone who posted as Q. And he was seducing her? We already knew that, that is Thomas’s favorite target… matrons, single, mature, more-old ladies, who have a pension? Who can pay him.” [06:44]

Tafoyovsky: “You can see already the tweets that I made.”

Trujillo: “I am looking at his criminal history, his arrests for criminal felony stalking. I am looking at his criminal arrests for felony stalking.”

Tafoyovsky: “Yes you can say that he has a record on being a stalker, it invalidates many things that he does.” [07:45]

Trujillo: “Nothing talks like a conviction. We need to be clear that an arrest is not a conviction…”

Tafoyovsky: “—Like how he portrays his reputation…”

Trujillo: “Oh yeah. Absolutely. I am confused how you consolidated a connection between Jack and Q.”

Q Beanz Responds to Q Profiteering Post Tweet Response 29 Apr 18

Tafoyovsky: “Like I said, you may have to… if you remember that era of QAnon, Patriot’s Soapbox everyday, you had Jerome Corsi decoding Q, and Q called out Jerome Corsi and stuff. (The profiteering drops). [08:32]

Q Infamous Q Profiteering Drop 29 Apr 18

Tafoyovsky: “What I do have is evidence that Patriot’s Soapbox offered guests, and privileges to their bigger monthly donors… it is also certain that Thomas lost control over his little creation. But it doesn’t mean that he lost all his influence.” [09:17].

Q Corsi Profiteering Elemi Fuentes

Courtesy of researcher Elemi Fuentes.

Tafoyovsky: “And the fact that he infiltrated Jerome Corsi, and the thing is that Corsi offered that service of attaching people to that email… so it is kind of like a repeated scheme that Thomas does… he just leaves footprints everywhere… and also—”

Trujillo: “—Everywhere—”

Tafoyovsky: “—patterns that he cannot escape from. Maybe this can answer your question better. I made the connection because when I searched the email that Thomas sent me, an A858 email, [10:09] I searched it, it sent me to the Pi.Mobi puzzle.”

(The Pi.Mobi puzzle is dismissed as an imitation Cicada puzzle on the Uncovering Cicada Wiki. They point to an archive from 4chan /x/, and to Schoenberger’s YouTube channel Sophia Musik, which displays nothing of immediate use, aside from a link to his blog).

Trujillo: “Right.”

Tafoyovsky: “That was Thomas’s original puzzle. It showed me results of Defango talking about the leaked emails between Q and Jerome Corsi.”

Trujillo: “Where are those leaked emails? Who has them?” [10:39]

Tafoyovsky: “Well, Defango put out a Pastebin. With links. Probably, you can say that it is decently documented. [10:56]. I can send it to you if you want.”

He did so, and so here it is:

I cloned it for safekeeping here:

Again, here is Chavez’s post on SteemIt.

Trujillo: “Please do. Because emails… alright, that is one piece of evidence, but what I am looking for, what I am looking to see, is a rock-solid connection between Jack and Q and Jack and Thomas. You know? [11:20]. That is what I am looking to see…”

Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm. (Agrees). Well like in a way that, uh—yeah, you can check it out, I can put out the evidence. Because like, I don’t want to try to, I don’t feel the need to try to convince you.” [11:40].

Cicada Q A858 TS Bernie4Ever Socks 72 Seconds USE

Trujillo: “You do not need to persuade me, you can just show me the evidence and I can draw my own conclusions…”

Tafoyovsky: “Hold on, let me look for the Defango video…”

Trujillo: “What time is it there for you there? I’m just curious.” [12:06].

Tafoyovsky: “It is 5 AM.”

Trujillo: “Five in the morning?”

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah.”

Trujillo: “Oh, bro. You need to get some sleep, man!”

Tafoyovsky: “Hahah… Thomas is not the only thing that is going on… we’ve been busy… I’m going to send a Pastebin on Twitter or in Zoom chat?” (We are talking in Zoom, which is why we enjoy this transcript and audio file rather than a gisted transcript). [12:21]

Trujillo: “In Twitter please, yeah.”

Cicada Lestat Twitter DMs re Corsi Q TS A858 Redacted

Tafoyovsky: “Ok…” (Typing…) “Uh, if you can send me—I can send you the email that Thomas sent to me that same email…”

Trujillo: “Ok… ok… There it is…”

Tafoyovsky: “Can you please type again your email?”

Trujillo: “Sure. (I do so). Just a moment here. [13:40] There you go. (Silence) So this is dated April 1st, 2018?” [13:45] (I am reading the Pastebin).

Tafoyovsky: “Sorry, can you repeat?”

Trujillo: “This is dated April 1st 2018.” It does not escape me that this is April Fool’s Day.

Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm.” (Yes). (Silence).

Trujillo: “Who is (indecipherable).” [14:32]

Tafoyovsky: “Excuse me?”

Trujillo: “Who is Denise Matteau?”

Her email is in the Defango Pastebin:

Q Corsi A858 TS = QAnon Denise Matteau March 27, 2018

Tafoya: “Actually she has a YouTube channel that is called Truth Convoy?”

Googling Ms. Matteau’s name brings up this gem from the Dallas Police Department on Facebook, the second link when her name is googled, apparently a post by “Dwayne Holloway” of Dallas PD:

Denise Matteau Dallas PD Blue Checkmark No Dwayne Holloway Aug 17 2019

Except that Ms. Matteau reportedly called Dallas PD and confirmed, she says, that no Officer Halloway is employed by that department. On August 17, Ms. Jaquelyn Weaver commented on this article (page bottom), stating that Ms. Matteau was apparently the victim of someone impersonating a police officer.

Clicking on Mr. Holloway’s name reveals that he is a “website owner, video gamer and devoted son/brother from America in the city of Albany,” and not a police officer at all. My guess is that Mr. Holloway is an activist, and he somehow prevailed on the Dallas PD to post his exposé of Denise Matteau’s heinous trafficking in hand-made quilts, funded through PayPal and a GoFundMe page.

The quilts look nice, and she makes one per month. I intend to buy one, if I can coordinate the logistics of shipping it to Bangkok. Thai Customs imposes heavy import duties, as they want expatriates to purchase products made in the Kingdom.

Ms. Matteau, naturally, is displeased to be called a scammer on the Dallas Police Department Facebook page (blue checkmarked, no less). In her critique of this interview, which she says “lies about many things,” she calls me a “leftist,” suggests that I am a Mossad stooge, and later, concludes that I am Peruvian. You cannot make things like this up.

At the [35:13] timestamp in her video, (Truth Convoy, “My Daily Half Hour Double 08/14/19 VR to Steve Trujillo : Qanon, Lestat, Cicada,” YouTube, August 16, 2019), Ms. Matteau declares, “I make no apologies for my antisemitism, I earned every bit of it.” The kindly grandma’s steel spine is on full display as she rants against “damned Jews.”

Unfortunately I am not Jewish except in spirit. After claiming that we are afraid to talk to her, she cites Lift the Veil’s Nathan Stolpman, “another Jew in the mix.” [46:00]. Then Ms. Matteau shocks me, saying “this is a good article. It’s got a lot of stuff in it, but like I said: grain of salt, grain of salt.” [46:35]. I thank her for her praise, but I enjoin all readers to remember that this interview captures the statements of Arturo Tafoyovsky. I merely comment on his words.

After she criticizes Mr. Tafoyovsky because he “is not American,” (he is Mexican), she errs when she condemns me: “this guy Trujillo, is not American.” [49:00]. I regret to correct Ms. Matteau, but I am American born and bred, of Spanish descent, and a veteran.

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She complains that Mr. Tafoyovsky and I believe that the Dallas PD “puts up smear pages on people who’ve never been anywhere near Dallas.” [49:15]. This is actually a legit indictment.

I should know better. Something about that Dallas PD Facebook page struck me, which may be why I included a screenshot of it in the first place. Ms. Matteau is correct when she says that no American police department would be allowed to post materials like this. I am sure that she will get to the bottom of it. For my part, I apologize to Ms. Matteau for publishing it.

In my comment response below, I advised Ms. Weaver that Ms. Matteau is not a focus of my investigations, and indeed she is not. I do not plan to investigate her trafficking in hand-made quilts, despite her emphatic condemnation that Mr. Tafoyovsky and I are “not Americans.” We are in fact both Americans. Somos americanos, Ms. Matteau. Mexico is in North America.

Tafoyovsky: “She is a little I can say… like… affected… like, she has some psychological problems, but you can talk with her, she lost a daughter, and I think that it affected her… you can talk to her… and she’s… as long as she does not label you as a Satanist… or something like that.”

This video, which is included in the email sent by Jerome Corsi on March 27, 2018 to Q <>, is no longer available on YouTube: it 404’s.

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Trujillo: I say, “Jack with a K.” [15:39] I continue scanning down Chavez’s Pastebin. I am reading out loud.

Tafoyovsky: “I can send you also the Defango video.”

Trujillo: “Yes, please do. Ok, I am sorry for taking a moment here, I just want to take a look at this.”

Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm.” (He is very patient).

Trujillo: “JCS <>.” Reading something that is otherwise illegible, I come to an immediate conclusion: “That feels like Thomas.”

And it does. These emails to “Carol in Cali” reek of Schoenberger’s grift.

Cicada TS Defango Lestat A858 Absurd Email to Carol in Cali from Jack with a K March 26 2018

All the elements of a Schoenberger scam are present: by now, for me, they are formulaic. I see the same patterns repeated. “Wave to NSA?” Creates the drama, mentioning “Sparrowhawk5,” which only exists in his imagination, adds fake credibility.

Then Schoenberger flatters Carol in Cali, saying that her name sounds like “an old school movie in technicolor,” followed by a fake foreign language reference with “Tre bien,” as this confabulator claims to speak 30 languages, except that Spanish, as Arturo Tafoyovsky aptly observes, is not one of them.

I could go on, but imagining Schoenberger digitally dancing with this poor old lady until he can put the touch on her for a donation or an “emergency loan” just makes me sad as hell.

Tafoyovsky: “Yes, that is true. You get better at detecting him. It actually gets not so hard.”

Trujillo: “Yeah… that email… it reeks of Thomas.”

Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm. I already sent you the email that Thomas sent me from that email.”

Trujillo: “Ok. I see the YouTube video… I got that… now did you send me email?”

Tafoyovsky: “Yes. It is the original.”

Trujillo: “Ok.”

Tafoyovsky: “It is at your email address.”

Trujillo; “Ok.”

Tafoyovsky: “It is sent to me, and from me, I am forwarding to you.”

Trujillo: “There it is.” [18:03]

Cicada Lestat A858 Email to Arturo Blows His Qover May 20 2019

I am initially disappointed.

Trujillo: “Is that all of it? Just “Bye bye?”

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah! But that’s typical Thomas.” [18:04]. He laughs, because it is true.

This email sent by Thomas Schoenberger from the A858 address that he used to perpetrate a puzzle on reddit–that he also used to correspond with Carol from Cali, and then also used as he pretended to be QAnon to deceive the old normie Jerome Corsi–is classic Schoenberger.

As is typical with fraudsters, Schoenberger lost track of his lies, and he mistakenly used this A858 email address to torment Arturo Tafoyovsky. And this brought the whole edifice down. That A858 email address was used by Schoenberger to perpetrate multiple scams. The least of them was a reddit puzzle, but many reddit solvers who read this and now learn the truth will feel gypped.

I am stepping through these inputs, and it takes me a minute to get it.

Trujillo: “Yeah. I am sorry to interrupt. Break this down for me.  I am kind of old.” And I am. “What is the significance of this “Bye Bye” email.”

Tafoyovsky: “That it is the same email that Corsi was communicating with and took him as Q.” [18:53].

I cannot believe how absurd this whole thing is. I ask:

Trujillo: “This email address was used by Corsi to correspond with Q?”

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. That email is owned by Thomas. And Corsi communicated to that email thinking that email was Q.”

Q Corsi A858 TS = QAnon Denise Matteau March 27, 2018

HOLY SHIT. It finally dawns on me. [19:26].

Trujillo: “I see it now. Now I see it. This… this PasteBin… shows… that Thomas email account in correspondence with JCS too? mewkew3? What I am not seeing is any indication that Corsi believes that one of them is Q?” (I am still reading…).

Q Jerome Corsi Screengrab from BaruchtheScribe Vid on YT

Tafoyovsky is very patient with me. The evidence is right in front of me with the “To:” field occupied with the single character “Q.” He explains.

Tafoyovsky: “Maybe it would help if you would see the video… Defango explains a little better how Corsi used, it was kind of like… if you donated constantly to Corsi, if you donated each month to Corsi, maybe I am wrong on this, if you donated every month to Corsi, he would blind cc you with correspondence that he would have with Q.”

And this indeed rings a bell with me, as Jerome Corsi sold subscriptions on to subscribers who received “inside information.” These Gab subscriptions were a thing until Gab was de-platformed and that messaging service could no longer process credit card payments.

Q Corsi Sells Premium Content on Gab

Corsi masqueraded as an analyst, writer of multiple “New York Times bestsellers,” with “intelligence community” connections that did not actually exist. I researched Jerome Corsi and I uncovered no contractual relationship between him and any agency of the US government. Ever.

Q Furber Final Shot Corsi Appeal to Authority Jan 2018

Corsi was never an employee, a contractor, or a subcontractor for the US government. His own biography on LinkedIn confirms it. If Corsi ever enjoyed a relationship of any kind with the US intelligence community there is no evidence of it, and he will never produce any.

When challenged, Corsi will predictably say, “that is classified,” and he will pretend that he can say no more. And it is true that the intelligence community never confirms nor denies. But take this from me: graduates of US government intelligence courses, whether conducted at The Farm or Harvey Point, or Fort Meade, Fort Huachuca or Fort Bragg, can recognize one another through petit indicators that elude non initiates. We know our own, and Corsi is not one of us.

Q Corsi Ludicrous Gematria Q Decode 1

One of Jerome Corsi’s fatuous Q “decodes.”

Corsi never served in the US intelligence community, Corsi was never trained by any agency in the US intelligence community, and Corsi is no expert at “military intelligence communications.” The gobbledegook that QAnon dishes out in ludicrous Q drops is not a classified communications system. I was trained on such systems. (CSSP, Alameda Naval Air Station, 1986). I know them when I see them. This ludicrous verbiage is not a classified communications system. It is, in fact, a fantasy.

Corsi persuaded Paul Furber and Tracy Diaz that he was an intelligence community “insider” and they believed him because they never met a real one. They also desperately wanted Corsi to be legit. We might think that old men in proximity to their demise would make no time for such bullshit, but we would be wrong. Someone may wish to remind Jerome Corsi that he will take no gold with him when he dies.

Q Corsi v CodeMonkey v Q 4-29-18 Crisis

Trujillo: “Ah,” I say. “And this was something that he was selling on”

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, I think so. Gab.”

Trujillo: “He was doing some kind of subscription thing on”

Q Corsi Gab Splash Page with Trump August 11 2019

Q Corsi Patreon Splash 19 Patrons $60 a month August 11 2019

Amazing: Jerome Corsi now receives a whopping $60 a month from Patreon. At one time, he was raking in far more dough. How far the mighty fell—unless… unless Corsi is still making money through an association with Patriot’s Soapbox? I no longer pay attention to Corsi, and I cannot stand to watch Patriot’s Soapbox.

Q Jerome Corsi, Jason Coleman, Coleman Rogers PamphletAnon, Undated Photo MotherLibertyNow SteemIt

Tafoyovsky: “I remember promoting him. He used every single bennie that he could gain money out of.”

Q Corsi Profiteering Elemi Fuentes

Courtesy of researcher Elemi Fuentes.

I do not think that Arturo means that he actually promoted Corsi back in the day. Again, we must remember that English is not his first language. I think that he meant that Corsi used multiple angles to wrest income from his audience. Amazon book sales, Gab subscriptions, donations via PayPal, and Patreon patrons. Corsi was paid $15,000 a month by Alex Jones as InfoWar’s Washington DC Bureau Chief, until his spat with the exquisitely coutured Roger Stone.

Q Corsi Q Changed 4-28 Q ID Still Secret May 14 2018

Trujillo: “That guy was greedy. Really greedy. So when did Defango do this video?”

Tafoyovsky: “It was like one year ago. April 1.”

(Defango TV, “Jerome Corsi and Qanon, Army Jack and A858 Coders or Shills compromised?” YouTube, April 1, 2018).

Trujillo: “Yeah. Yeah. I’m looking that up now. April 1st. Yeah. Alright. So what we got here is emails indicating that Corsi is talking to Jack. Is that correct?”

Tafoyovsky: “Yes.”

Trujillo: “We got indications that Jack is Thomas.”

Tafoyovsky: “Yes. Not only by email, but by this other person, let me send you the image, that is Donna Emerald, she says that she was in communication for six months with someone… that he was calling himself “Jack.” (THIS WAS THOMAS).

Donna Emerald:

I intend absolutely no offense with this observation, but it strikes me that Ms. Emerald was yet another matronly mark for Schoenberger to scam. Donna Emerald’s YouTube channel reaches 87 subscribers.

Trujillo: “So you think that Thomas has been Q all along.”

Tafoyovsky: “Uh, no. I am sure that Thomas was the influencer. Or…”

Trujillo: “Yeah.”

Tafoyovsky: “In different aspects. Like with Corsi he was there for awhile until Corsi was eventually removed from the team. He always had influence via Snow White and others that he knew within the group… just by his association with Tracy Beanz (Tracy Diaz)?” [23:37].

Q Lestat Tracy Beanz Intro TS Jan 11 2019

I am thinking, who was Snow White? Oh yeah… Unanimous on BitChute… and @SnowWhite7IAM on Twitter:

Or… in other words: Lisa Clapier née Rudd, aka Pistis Sophia and @SnowWhite7IAM Activist Media.

Cicada Pistis Sophia Lisa Clapier TS Mindy at Insurgent Media November 26, 2018

Trujillo: “Right.”

Tafoyovsky: “(Unintelligible). That’s—I think that’s enough.”

Trujillo: “So let me think about this for a minute. What was the significance of the tweets that came out today?” [24:05].

Tafoyovsky: “The significance was that we used three references… what do you call it? Like, three arguments that, with evidence, and also it makes sense, it fits, about the involvement of Thomas with this specific LARP. With this one that connects not only to QAnon, but to his old puzzle, Pi.Mobi, that he used to infiltrate Cicada. We’re basically like hitting two birds with one stone.

Cicada Lestat Tweet TS = A858 to Corsi = PiMobi Connection Confirmed USE

Trujillo: “Got it. Ok. Now I’m tracking with you, I’m starting to understand this. This is confusing. You got to make it simple for an old guy like me.”

Tafoyovsky: “It’s ok. It’s good reference for me when I do the videos.” Arturo is very patient and respectful with me. Talking with him is a blizzard of personalities in the Truther Movement that I never heard of, and a crash course in the intricacies of Cicada 3301—that “most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age.”

I cannot help comparing him to Manuel Chavez III. Tafoyovsky is Mexican, and courtesy comes naturally to him. Chavez is American, rude, contemptuous, quick to assume betrayal–which makes sense when you consider that he was betrayed by Thomas Schoenberger and in turn betrayed the secrets of Cicada 3301. Betrayal is a repeated theme in the psychological makeup of Chavez.

Trujillo: “Do I have your permission to go ahead and do a transcript of our conversation here? I’ll send it to you before I publish it. I do not have to publish this. If you think it should be published I am happy to publish it.” [25:27].

Tafoyovsky: “You know, I’ve already told you what I, why I talk to you, what I want is that–to get, if something is going to be saved for history–that it be right.”

Trujillo: “Ok. Because that is what I would like to do. I think, I mean at this point so far, just taking… from a meta-standpoint, we have a connection between Cicada and Q, and right now Defango is having the most influence on how the Cicada narrative is going to be documented.” [26:13].

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, and that’s the thing, that is why I’m worried, is that, because Thomas has to be amputated from (telling his kitty no!) Cicada, because he is not Cicada, he got officially kicked out, he has no documentation, no creative, uh, he is not creating anything working for the puzzle or anything.” [26:34]

Trujillo: “Right. I understand that it was Kryptos who was doing the puzzles.”

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. And he is doing his own mess on his own, (Arturo is still talking about Schoenberger, and has not yet shifted over to talk about Kryptos, whom I will discuss in some detail momentarily) and he is using different outlets on social media to propagate and maintain that narrative.”

“And even Defango, I don’t know, [27:12] I talked to him so many times to stop associating him (Schoenberger) with Cicada… that’s why I tried to like, Thomas is fake Cicada. This not only goes to Cicada, also they work through Anonymous, Lisa Clapier or Snow White, Sam I Am, is Unanimous–that is the feminine side of Anonymous, there are other little groups and stuff that work in that same way.” [27:45].

Cicada Lestat Lisa Clapier nee Rudd = Unanimous = Beautiful Exchange = Pistis Sophia = @SnowWhite7IAM Activist Media Aug 10 2019

Upon investigation, it turns out that Lisa Clapier nêe Rudd’s criminal record includes felony convictions for writing hot checks and other offenses. I am struck by the proliferation of felons in the Q’verse–and even within Cicada 3301.

Arturo Tafoyovsky tells me, “and yes, she has a worse criminal record than Thomas.” Which is a whopper statement, because the criminal history of Thomas Schoenberger is lengthy, indeed. Then Arturo tells me some gossip, that I will investigate in coming days: “she ran over and killed her husband.”

I can only say, “WHAT?”

Cicada Lestat Lisa Clapier Worse Criminal Record Than Thomas! Aug 10 2019

He walks the statement back slightly, saying, “Maybe I’m wrong about the husband but she did run over someone and killed him, it was classified as an accident or something.” (Arturo Tafoyovsky, personal interview, August 10, 2019).

Monkey Savant, “08/02/19 LARPSLAYER 7 : REQUIEM 4 QANON (FINAL DEBUNK) + WIKILEAKS + UNITY4J,” YouTube, August 2, 2019.

Tafoyovsky: “And, maybe you have not seen other clips that I put out… we,  I recorded six months ago?  Remember that I told you I find out this group Unity4J, involved with Thomas, also involved with QAnon, and WikiLeaks? We got a friend that analyzed the data from social media and stuff… and that stuff goes back to the Russian Embassy.” [28:21].

I am struck dumb and I sit silent for a moment.

Tafoyovsky: “I am sorry… I am struggling with the translation. The net of people, that communicate between each other, that are involved in MAGA, and puzzles, and in WikiLeaks… is very interesting.”

I find my voice again and I ask:

Trujillo: “What is the connection of the Russian Embassy?” [28:57].

Tafoyovsky: “Well, it is people… to that point, I really… I do not know. And on that point, I am ok with not knowing.” [29:16].

Trujillo: “It is ok to say you do not know. It is important to understand what you do know. But it is even more important to know what you do not know. That is ok.” And nobody can dispute that delving into matters potentially implicating the Russian Embassy should be done with due care and discretion.

Tafoyovsky: “It is simply that there is a part investigating that, you know, you just got to get to a point where you feel safe.”

I am laughing. [29:43] Arturo turned up a possible Russian Embassy link to a fraudulent conspiracy that exploited the notoriety of WikiLeaks and Julian Assange for profit!

Tafoyovsky continues: “And not go in and mess with other stuff, and basically this comment was just in reference that it is, in fact, a big connection between people, maybe most of them in an informal way… and I think that it is testimony on why it has been so hard to… to expose, and… [29:56] to fight against the defamation, I guess.” [30:26].

Trujillo: “It is interesting to me because I had a long conversation with Defango yesterday, or the day [30:39] before yesterday (it was May 22, 2019, transcription is underway)… and uh, he was telling me that in the next couple weeks President Trump is going to do something in a definitive fashion that proves that QAnon is a LARP,  it’s not connected to the US government in any way. He said that we’re going to see that in a couple of weeks. [30:58]. So I am kind of watching for that. But, you know, Defango did not want to tell me. Or be specific. He likes to play his games.” [31:00]. (And I am still waiting, two and a half months later).

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. That is what I do not like about him. Like, I sent you what he tweeted… after what I discovered. And now he comes out and says, “Oh, I knew all along, but I didn’t want to say.”

Trujillo: “Right. Right.”

Cicada Lestat Interview Screengrab May 24 2019 35-57 Timestamp

Tafoyovsky: “I want him, I know he needs to win. [31:35]. I understand him. And I would be totally ok if he would take all the glory. For example.”

Trujillo: “Yeah. Yeah.”

Tafoyovsky: “But I see him do that kind of stuff in comments. And I like… I can’t, like… it would be more harmful for him.” [31:32].

Trujillo: “Don’t engage.”

Tafoyovsky: “Excuse me?”

Trujillo: “Don’t engage. Let him win. Let him talk.” [32:05].

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, that is what I’ve been trying to do, and he just adapts his story around it. [32:12]. And I don’t mind. I mean, I am not going to lie to him.” [32:23].

Trujillo: “No.”

Tafoyovsky: “But he can… I understand that his life has been screwed up also.” [32:34].

Trujillo: “I think you nailed it when you said that he wants to win. He needs to win. I think that sums it up in a phrase. He needs to win. You know? Desperately. So let’s just let him win, and we’ll just make sure that the information gets out.” [32:58].

Chavez lost his composure when I published this interview because I published it before I published an interview with him. As infantile as that is, I understand Chavez. He is at times overwhelmed by inadequacy. His pursuit of fame is an attempt to fill a gaping black hole at his core. His history is one of betrayal, he cannot trust anybody, least of all himself, because no one understands his inadequacies better.

Chavez’s interview, which I will publish on this site in coming weeks, is gigantic. We talked for nearly three hours, and a host of characters and events needed to be explained for the interview to make sense to a lay reader who is not a daily watcher of a niche category of YouTube videos.

Cicada Defango Lestat Douchebag Fool Aug 13 2019 1-20-06 Timestamp

Defango TV (Manuel Chavez III), “News #hongkongprotest #lightwave – Defango TV 8-13-2019,” YouTube, August 13, 2019: Timestamp : [1:20;06].

Rather than ignoring this interview, Chavez was compelled to read it–on his YouTube channel. As he read it, he mocked Tafoyovsky for citing research previously done by himself. He called me a “fool” and a “douchebag” because he thinks that I am choosing sides. Instead of feeling validated because Tafoyovsky cited his solid research, research that was duly noted by me, Chavez accused Tafoyovsky of stealing from him.

I am meticulous in matters of attribution. There was no theft. There was acknowledgement of good research. The proof of that is in this interview.

“So the other news today, we got Lestat actually coming out with an interview with some fool (Chavez is referring to me). I actually talked to this fool, too. I talked to this fool I believe before Lestat but I guess he posted Lestat’s interview before he posted mine, because–well, I don’t know why. I called him a douchebag because he posted Lestat’s shit before my shit and Lestat’s shit is always half true.”

Chavez is approximately 31 years old, with 20,000 subscribers to his YouTube channel. When I was 31 years old, I was advising detachments of the Peruvian Drug Police in the Upper Huallaga Valley in combat. I was a combat veteran of service in the 2d Ranger Battalion, and an alumnus of the 1st Special Forces Group. I was honored by President Ronald Reagan at the 1984 State of the Union Address. A search on my birthname Stephen Trujillo turns this up with a click.

Chavez and I live in different worlds. Because I published an interview with Tafoyovsky first, his imaginary rival, Chavez calls me a fool and a douchebag. A smart person would wait until his own interview is published before calling the writer a douchebag. But we are not dealing with smart people here. This is my fault. I selected this topic because I am interested in it, and these are the characters involved.

Chavez craves fame. I will make him famous. His role in these historical matters justifies it. Calling me childish names will not change one word of the history that I am writing.

Because information is my priority, the historical record, and Arturo Tafoyovsky wants the historical record of Cicada 3301 to be accurate, as do I, we are allies in that aim. For these are cypherpunk ideals, and Cicada 3301 is a cypherpunk enterprise. Information needs to be free. Those are not just stirring words, they are more than a t-shirt slogan.

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, I just try to do my stuff and not, like don’t try to direct any kind of [33:17] aggressiveness or hate on what he does… but, uh… it maybe gets me… But maybe that’s just me, reflecting on this.” [33:25]

Cicada Lestat Interview Timestamp 33-33 May 24 2019

Trujillo: “Let me sum up here. Basically what you’ve done, is you have connected [33:41] Corsi to Jack. And we know that Jack is Thomas. OK?”

Arturo considers and then agrees.

Tafoyovsky: “Mmm-hmm. Yeah. I am not the only one that made the connection between Corsi and Jack. Because that came out basically kind of as a leak. A year ago.” [34:06]

Trujillo: “Right. Ok, so Corsi is connected to Jack. Jack is QAnon.” [34:15].

Arturo Tafoyovsky clarifies the statement: “You can call it the essence. [34:26] You know because there is the Bakers, and the people that have the tripcode and stuff?”

Trujillo: “Right.”

Tafoyovsky: “You can say that they are posting Q. But I am sure that at one point they lost Thomas, like, because you know, the posts start changing.”

Trujillo: “Yes they do.” [34:50] And indeed the Q drops did change. The iterations of QAnon will be examined elsewhere.

Tafoyovsky: “The tone and stuff. So I’m sure because that is what he proposes to do. So at the start of it, they had the favor of Thomas, because also it was his baby, and then he lost it and they lost Thomas and therefore the way that Q posted changed.” [35:15].

Trujillo: “Well. Actually it was at that time, I got to go back and look at the dates. But uh, Corsi came out and said, a new QAnon has been designated at the highest levels…”

Cicada Lestat Cracks Up Interview Timestamp 35-33 May 24 2019

Arturo cracks up because this is one of the stupidest things imaginable and it really happened. [35:33].

Trujillo (continues): “… and this is just out of Corsi’s imagination. This is basically Corsi saying, “we just made up a new guy to be QAnon. And we’re going to continue.”

Q Corsi CodeMonkey &amp; Q Both Compromised 5 May 18 Take Over


Trujillo [35:46] (continues): “And everyone just said, “oh, ok,” I mean, they trust this guy, this old guy, Corsi, who claims to have connections to the intelligence community, and guess what Arturo? He doesn’t. There is no connection to the intelligence community.” [36:03].

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah, I’m sure, like Robert David Steele…. that he’s supposed to be like this secret agent, covert operations… (crosstalk)… Well, actually you can Corsi, and uh, there’s a connection I think that I might be, I might have to… I recall that there was a connection between Corsi, Stone, RDS.” [36:35] “Well. Anyway. Anyway, RDS was pushing QAnon, like crazy…”

Trujillo: “Yeah. Well, RDS… could be–he is a candidate for being involved.” [36:57].

Tafoyovsky: “Well, RDS, If you followed him up to the grossest of the LARP echelon, and you get to the ITNJ International Tribunal of Natural Justice.”

Trujillo: “Mmm-hmm.” (Agreeing).

Tafoyovsky: “There are a lot of other LARPERs in that thing, [37:19] and that it is connected to a bunch, but, like, that is another topic. But we are also on that…anyway.” [37:30].

Trujillo: “Interesting… Ok, so sum up this in a phrase. What is the significance of the tweets that you posted today.” [37:40].

Tafoyovsky: “Well, the significance is that we have proven that the same person that started the puzzle known as Pi.Mobi that eventually [37:59] infiltrated the real Cicada group, uh, and that same person or owner of that account influenced, or was in communication, and there were…. uh, interactions, or sending and receiving of information, portraying himself as QAnon… uh, at the same time Corsi was promoting to his donors that [38:38] they would receive like, special emails that only him and Q shared… and those, and not only that, and by a third person that was in communication with Jack… and Q, and stuff, that it is Thomas.” (He laughs, because this is just so ludicrous).

“And I think that… that it’s, I don’t think… it is… without a doubt, the biggest evidence that we could, that anyone has come [39:23] with, regarding any identity that you can put on QAnon.”

Trujillo: “I agree.” I do not think that there is any question that Thomas Schoenberger used his A858 email address to masquerade as QAnon to deceive Jerome Corsi for an unknown period of time. We can integrate this, I think, into an analysis of the iterations of QAnon. As I said: such an analysis is underway, and will be published in due time.

Tafoyovsky: “Partially or absolutely. But no one has that. And that, because I think that he is the puppet master… because like I said, connected to many others, if we take care of that… everything else is just going to start popping up, like it has been in these past days…” [39:59].

Trujillo: “Yeah.”

Tafoyovsky: “So I feel great about it—”

Trujillo: “You should.”

Tafoyovsky: “It has taken more than a year, if you add up the stuff, so I am thankful and happy…” [40:19].

Cicada Q A858 TS Bernie4Ever Socks 72 Seconds USE

Trujillo: “Just be careful. Thomas… that guy is so toxic. I mean I come across his fingerprints, his footsteps, everywhere, and he is involved in really terrible, terrible shit. Be careful.” [40:47].

Tafoyovsky: “Alright, man. And, uh… this next phase I am sure is going to be a little bit busy and stuff. But I am trying to put out a really good video… I know that it’s a video that I make that it has to be good, because it is meant to go… to really… to affect or make a change. I hope so. I will try my best.” [41:36].

Trujillo: “Well there are two ways to go. You can make a home run, or you can go step by step, carefully, chronicling everything, documenting everything, and at the end of the process you have an overwhelming preponderance of proof that shows what happened. Two ways. A home run, or the long slow way.” [42:15]

Tafoyovsky: “Maybe we can make a chimera out of those things.”

I am laughing. Arturo cracks me up.

Tafoyovsky: “Well something has to be done, because there is—I know that Thomas is not going to stop. Because he can’t stop.”

Trujillo: “He can’t.”

Tafoyovsky: “So I feel under pressure because maybe he’s going to do something stupid…” [42:36].

Trujillo: “It is inevitable. he can’t keep track of his lies. And this is how we trip him up, this is how we find out, he’s using the same email address for different things, this is how we catch him.”

Cicada Lestat Tweet TS = A858 to Corsi = PiMobi Connection Confirmed USE

Tafoyovsky: “And he starts, what do you call it? Wasting all his [43:23] bullets, for example, all his friends, he burns them up, so he keeps going and going… Like I find out there was this character, an associate of Thomas from the start, that is known as iamzero, he has some videos just trashing the older members like brotherBox and ?? and I just figured out who he is. He is an anchorman for Fox.”

Trujillo: “Who? Who?”

Tafoyovsky: “His name is Tim Young.”

Trujillo: “Please do. How do you spell Zeros? You told me the name he was using… on YouTube, what was it it again? How do you spell Zeros?”

Tafoyovsky: “iamzero? Zero? Zeroes? Tim Young. I have it here, he actually followed me, It was so weird. After I met Thomas, he followed me on Twitter, and well, he is like a famous person, he has a bunch of followers, (nearly 228,000 on Twitter) and I really, like, felt awkward. Why is he adding me? And stuff. Mostly because… one second… (typing, focusing, distracted by something)… Oh. Excuse me. Uh… What was I going to tell you?” [45:10].

Trujillo: “Tim Young?”

Tafoyovsky: “Oh, yes. Here it is. He added me. And uh, I remembered I tried saying hi, and he never answered me back… that’s recently on twitter, his twitter account, I can send you the iamzeros channel and video…” [45:52].

Trujillo: “Please do… ok, so what is this guy doing? What is his connection to everything?” [46:10].

Tafoyovsky: “Well. That is a good question. Maybe he…”

Trujillo: “He is connected to Thomas, right?”

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. Yeah. I have a bunch of text messages that they talked to each other and they are actually planning like, to take over Cicada, or this group, or that group, it is like their… one second… You can just hear by the voice… I have more evidence, but if you have a good ear, uh… it’s really easy… oh. The give-away is how he curses. He makes special emphasis, and you know, the word patterns? The way he talks, it gives him away. Also the necessity of covering his face… is just a signal that he is concerned about his face.” [47:25]


Trujillo: “Tim Young.” A third rate comedian trying to hit the bigtime as a political commentator does not interest me, and he clearly lacks any qualities that coincide with Cicada 3301. I get back to business. “What is the current status of Cicada?” [47:54].

Tafoyovsky: “We are on stand-by until Thomas goes away. (Laughs). Each of us are doing stuff, and we talk, but nothing is going to be public until Thomas goes away.”

Trujillo: “Ok. Who is currently participating in this?”

Tafoyovsky: “Maybe you can say like, maybe 9 to 10 persons. But I cannot really say their names. Besides from the persons who are already out, most of them are still with us. Yeah.”

Trujillo: “That’s good. I mean, Genki is still involved with you?”

Cicada DJ Genki Blocks me on Twitter?

Somebody is talking to somebody, as immediately after I asked Thomas Schoenberger for an interview on April 16, 2019, DJ Genki, qntmpkts and a number of Schoenberger sock accounts blocked me on Twitter. I recently sent Genki and other Cicada insiders interview requests. If they read this, they should consider that my intent is to ensure that Cicada 3301 is accurately chronicled and archived. I am not a journalist, I do not engage in gotcha journalism. I am an old cypherpunk, a political scientist, and an historian. In my youth, I was a soldier.

Schoenberger should ask himself whether he wishes his involvement in Cicada 3301 to be characterized by his critics or by himself. So far, only his critics are talking to me. None of his allies. I strive to be dispassionate, but my analysis will inevitably be shaped by my sources.

Tafoyovsky: “That is a good question. He has not talked to me in awhile. I got angry at him. Because he did not want to… he was… yeah, I can tell you about that, but off the record. I do not like talking about other people.” [49:17]. (We never do discuss it).

Trujillo: “Sure. It is alright. It is ok. So… What’s Kryptos doing?”

Tafoyovsky: “Kryptos… Bruno?”

Trujillo: “Leaping Lemur?”

Tafoyovsky: “Oh, the Liber Primus?”

Trujillo: “No, no, no, Kryptos… There’s a guy I cannot remember the rest of it.” [49:46]

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. Kryptos Journal.”

Trujillo: “Yeah. That is it. What is he doing?”

Tafoyovsky: “He’s always been weird and stuff. He sometimes… [50:12] he would be like, you cannot really talk to him about serious topics, because he would just stop talking to you. He just doesn’t respond.”

“But if I send him something and start talking about anime, or anything else, you can get an answer. I think that… my understanding is he also is on stand-by. Because really Thomas has… like, he has no one… from the people that actually created things… no one is with him anymore.”

Trujillo: “Well he has his little business-side guys, Richard Lech, but they are not the creators.” [51:07].

Cicada Richard Lech StaffMeUp Profile Cicada TV Series

Tafoyovsky: “No.”

Richard Lech makes zero creative contributions in the internal Cicada documents in my possession, suggesting that his purpose was always to monetize the intellectual property of the order.

Trujillo: “As I understand it Kryptos was the primary puzzle maker. Is that correct?” (I already know that he was. I am just trying to get Arturo on the record so that I can compare his statements with those of other Cicada insiders. I make no secret of my methods or my purposes. As I say, I am an historian and a political scientist with cypherpunk convictions).

Tafoyovsky: “Yes. You can say that. Yeah. Sure. I mean everybody helped in some way.” (Internal Cicada documents in my possession do indeed reflect a collaborative brainstorming process where multiple participants contribute. My next installment will showcase this).

“What I know of him is that he [51:39] couldn’t care less of putting his name out there. It was kind of a thing with all of us… but… Thomas took care of him like he was the golden child. And there was another one, (another individual by the same name) but like, because of the compartmentalization… that he kept us different, and told us different stories about each other, so we did not talk to each other… a lot of us like really came together, but some of them really got hurt. And they do not want to know about this anymore.”

(After Thomas Schoenberger and his co-conspirators were exposed by Manuel Chavez III trying to commercialize Cicada 3301 and broker a deal with Hollywood–a deal that excluded the digital artists who actually created its intellectual property–those Cicada insiders were irretrievably alienated).

Cicada Lestat TS Levine Lech Insurgent Media SONY TS Criminal Record

Trujillo: “Who is Z?” (I already know the answers to these questions but I am asking in order to confirm what other Cicada insiders told me).

Tafoyovsky: “Uh, that’s him. That’s another thing, that was another thing… it always bothered me that Z changed his names and his handles. I think that sometimes it was even Thomas.” (It was. At times, Schoenberger himself masqueraded as Z, or Z 3301).

“Because sometimes Z presented himself with the name Richard Miller (which is his true name). But it’s somebody, another story. There was another Richard Miller within Thomas’s group.”

Tafoyovsky is referring to Dr. Richard Alan Miller, ex-husband of occult writer Iona Miller, an associate of Thomas Schoenberger’s–all of whom will be addressed in detail in the next installment in this series.

Tafoyovsky continues: “Which made it complicated. But then I saw different people… at the end… I could say that: Kryptos is Z.” [53:30]

Cicada Iona Miller Mind Control for Dummies Lestat Video November 30, 2018

Trujillo: “It gets very complicated very quickly.”

Tafoyovsky: “Yes. Between the people that we came together and talked, we uncovered a lot of things, but unfortunately many people like Z, they completely isolated themselves because of all this trouble.” [53:54].

And this is the fallout of the Schoenberger era and Cicada 3301. Due to the greed of a con man and his co-conspirators, amazing artists were alienated and an incredible creative engine was wrecked. I am writing the early history of Cicada 3301. This interview with Arturo Tafoyovsky is its first installment. I hope that Cicada continues, and outlives me. Someone else, I hope, will write the final history of Cicada 3301.

Trujillo: “It was very ugly. So I do not remember if we talked about it. Who has the PGP Key now? (Defango was emphatic in saying that Kryptos did, personal interview, Manuel Chavez III (Defango), May 22, 2019, transcription ongoing).

Tafoyovsky: “I really can’t tell.” (He knows but he cannot tell me). “It’s a person that has access to the internet… limited access? Yeah. That’s a good hint.” The hint flies right over my head. I know who likely holds that PGP key, but I am trying to confirm it through multiple sources.

Trujillo: “You do not think that Kryptos has it?” [54:39]. (Sometimes a frontal attack works, so I try this Hail Mary).

Tafoyovsky: “Uh, no. That is something that almost broke a fight between us, as I was telling him from the start actually, I think that I mentioned it when I talked to brotherBox… an interview… that I called him out, like, can’t you see the mess that is going on?”

“Why don’t you put out a fucking PGP message… A PGP message disavowing Thomas. And I got answers, “No, that will only make him more important, that will only validate him, we do not want to burn the PGP on him.”

“I [55:19] was like ok, that makes sense and stuff, and I had to… yeah, I trusted him, so I was like, ok, but then it came to the point where people were feeling suicidal and other stuff started happening more intense, (referring here to Pavana and Jesse, see video above), that is when I said fuck that, this has to stop, and part of that was why Genki does not talk to me anymore. [56:02]. Because I was pressuring him, I was asking him for help. And I got angry that he didn’t want to, he has his motives and stuff… but I resent that he doesn’t want to fix it. I think that’s more important.” [56:34].

So do I. But then, I also want to know the answers to all mysteries.

Trujillo: “He doesn’t want to step up.” [56:34].

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. I think that is because he does not like confrontation. He is a very noble soul, and you can actually  listen to him in one of the videos I uploaded, called Inner Sanctum, that’s him talking.”

Lestat (Arturo Tafoyovsky), “cicada3301 /innersanctum.” YouTube, April 22, 2019.

Lestat, “genky,” YouTube, December 28, 2018.

The video “/innersanctum” is a voice-masked version of a monologue by DJ Genki that was previously uploaded by Arturo Tafoyovsky and is now preserved within my growing LBRY archive of Cicada materials: @Samizdat.

Trujillo: “I will look for it.”

Tafoyovsky: “Have you seen it?”

Trujillo: “I think I may have. I am not sure. I have seen so much of this stuff.” [57:12].

Tafoyovsky: He smiles. “I can send it to you.”

Trujillo: “Yes, Please do. What is this you sent? iamzero.” (Laughing. Watching a video).

(Silence, listening to Tim Young curse up a storm like a total loser).

Trujillo: “Arturo how is it possible that this is dated October 31, 2015?”

Tafoyovsky: “What is dated?” [58:34].

Trujillo: “This video, “A big f you to cicadasolver and btotherbox,” by iamzero.”

Tafoyovsky: “That is where… the date that he made it. Like, that’s the [57:37] date where Thomas was infiltrating Cicada, and that was their operation, after the IRCs, after the brutes on Facebook?” (He means attacks on the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channels and the bruteforce attacks to take over Cicada-solving pages on Facebook).

“He went under the name of John Magnus, we also proven that it is him because there is a Pinterest account that’s in the name of John Magnus, and his address is, I can send you the link also.” The email address tstger13 is a long-known address used by Thomas Schoenberger.

Cicada TS Pinterest John Magnus August 13 2019

Trujillo: “Ok, So who is this guy in the mask.”

Tafoyovsky: “That is Tim Young. The anchor from Fox.”

Cicada iam zero (yes he is) 2 faces June 29, 2016

Tim Young, erstwhile Fox personality, aka iam zero, a masked, foul-mouthed ranter on YouTube, accuses Nox Populi of “two-faced” behavior. Hamfisted irony.

Trujillo: “Oh my God.” [59:49]. Tim Young is not a rocket scientist.

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah it’s crazy.” Smiling. “I am going to send you something also so you can compare it, you can see the style…”

(Silence)… Arturo talks to his cat.

Trujillo: “/innersanctum,” ok…”

Tafoyovsky: Laughing. “It is so funny. I also have more evidence, if you want to do the voice…”

Arturo looks tired.

Tafoyovsky: “I sent you, just uploaded…” (unintelligible.) [1:01:01].

Trujillo: “Ah. Washington Examiner.” Nodding. Watching a video. (Silence)… “Why is it… that I do not like this guy, Arturo?”

(Apparently Tim Young’s last appearance in the august pages of The Washington Examiner, a sister-publication of the same rag that started the Fusion-GPS mess that was taken over by the DNC and the Perkins Coie law firm as a cutout for the Hillary Clinton campaign, was in 2018: maybe they came to their senses and chose not to renew his contract? No idea. Just speculating).

Tafoyovsky: “Excuse me? That guy? Tim Young?”

Trujillo: “Yeah, Tim Young.”

Tafoyovsky: “He spells out, like this bad vibe.” [01:01:18].

Trujillo: “He does.”

Tafoyovsky: “He like, he hates… I don’t know, it also like, bothered me… like it made me feel like, yeah, that like… really negative people (I am shaking my head) and the one that spreads that kind of attitude, like, resonates negative activity, but snowflake negativity.”

Trujillo: “Very much. I agree.” [1:03:15].

Tafoyovsky: “He just tells them to, you know, put out a fight and they coward out? But yeah, he does give that negativity, and also in that video with the mask, you just spread it, and it is the same sentiment. Also the voice tones…” [01:03:40].

Trujillo: “I am going to watch it.”

Tafoyovsky: “Yeah. So do that. I got to make a stop in the bathroom and I have to attend to other matters.”

Trujillo: “Go take care of your doggie, man.” I was under the mistaken impression that Arturo is a dog owner. Like myself, he is a cat custodian.

Tafoyovsky: “Maybe, what time is it for you there?”

Trujillo: “It is like almost 8 o’clock at night.”

Tafoyovsky: “Eight o’clock?”

Trujillo: “Yeah. I’ll be up for another couple of hours, then I gotta go lay down.” I am an old man. When my body and my eyes and my brain ache, I need to take a break.

Tafoyovsky: “I will send you a message. Lots of people are like, asking me a bunch of stuff.”

Trujillo: “It looks like Twitter is blowing up for you.”

Tafoyovsky: “Yes, it is going to be… well, who knows. Let’s see what happens.”

Trujillo: “Just be careful.” [1:05:06].

Tafoyovsky: “I’ll try.”

Trujillo: “Just be careful. I do worry about you.”

Tafoyovsky: “Thanks. I will be ok. I just wanted to…”

Trujillo: “Thank you for taking the time to talk with me. I appreciate it. This is complicated stuff for an old man.”

Tafoyovsky: “Oh, it’s ok, and like I said, it also helps me, what I want is to transmit–my cat is crazy–but I wanted to transmit the message effectively.”

Trujillo: “That is right. We can help each other. Go take care of your kitty.”

Tafoyovsky: “Ok. Thanks. And have great day—ah, night. On your side.”

Trujillo: “You do the same, I’ll talk with you soon.”

Tafoyovsky: “Ok. Bye bye.” [1:06:00].

End recording: [01:06:00].

End Transcript: Conclusion

This was my initial transcribed interview with an insider in the enigmatic order, Cicada 3301, the chief of graphics, the primary videographer during the Middle Period, Arturo Tafoyovsky (Lestat).

I conducted the next interview in this series with Manuel Chavez III (Defango) on May 22, 2019. That interview and its accompanying transcription and commentary are now up to nearly 40,000 words in length. It delves the origins of QAnon and the synergy between Q and Cicada. It will be published in coming weeks, with installments in both the Q Files and the Cicada Files series.

These articles are the foundation of a forthcoming work on QAnon, and potentially on Cicada 3301.

This interview with Arturo Tafoyovsky confirmed the identity of the Cicada cryptographer Richard Miller (aka Z, Z 3301, Kryptos, Kryptos JournalLethargic Lemur and other pseudonyms), introduced Dr. Richard Allen Miller and his ex-wife, the New Age esoteric writer Iona Miller, and exposed the Fox network talking head Tim Young.

In his review of this interview, Manuel Chavez insisted on calling Tim Young “Tim Barnes.” Perhaps Tim Barnes was doxxed and I am unaware of it. Regardless, Young/Barnes is tangential to these matters. The status of Cicada’s PGP key was broached: its present disposition will be confirmed in my next installment.

The role of Richard Lech in the Cicada order was addressed. The former “head composer” Michael Levine will be discussed in detail in the next article in this series, and the events that led to the dissolution of the order explained. Other inner order members like DJ Genki were introduced. Further interviews with other Cicada insiders are underway.

We were introduced to the nefarious quilt trafficking of Ms. Denise Matteau, Thomas Schoenberger was revealed as the perpetrator of the reddit A858 mystery, the author of the Pi.Mobi puzzle, “Carol from Cali’s” grifting correspondent “Jack with a K,” and Jerome Corsi’s mysterious Q.

For a period during Corsi’s ascendance as a Q whisperer, as an interpreter of Q drops in early 2018, Schoenberger masqueraded as Q and deceived the old deceiver, if only for a while.

For those former members of Cicada 3301 who cannot decide whether they wish to speak with me, I say this: I am writing the history of Cicada 3301. I possess sufficient data to complete an initial draft. More information could make that history more detailed. Everyone who wants the truth about Cicada 3301 to be preserved for history should collaborate in that.

This interview features the views of Arturo Tafoysky. For those who disagree with those views, or hold different views, the only way to ensure that their dissent is chronicled is to talk to me. Or they can, of course, write their own histories.

More, much more, is coming. Stay tuned.

August 14, 2019.

August 15, 2019: Chavez errors revised.

August 17-8, 2019: Denise Matteau corrections made.

Estéban Trujillo de Gutiérrez


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